Meshuggah - Catch 33 - In Death-Is Death - 2:55 to 3:56
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dill_the_devil
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JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
I was listening to this in the car today. It got to track 4 and I was like, "huh? where did tracks 2 & 3 go?". Is there a reason why tracks 1, 2, and 3 are all basically the same????
It's basicaly just split into several tracks to increase user friendliness. The first 3 tracks make up one "movement" of the song, as do the second 3. Track 7 is kind of like an intermission track--etc.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
Meshuggah is math metal, and it's not an easy listen by any stretch. For the same reason, I can't get my head around Zero Hour. There is something so clinical and sterile about these bands, just because they're so damn technically proficient. For that I take my hat off to them, but how about throwing me a tune once in a while? Still, I don't expect this to be instant, and rather than dismiss it, I'll keep it in the car for a while and keep listening. I can't imagine listening to this anywhere other than the car, heh.
Meshuggah is best listened to in long periods, such as the car. I drive alot and CD's like this and "I" are good to listen to during these times. Ive found it easier to absorb everything in their music because it is very damn technical. Hallucinating to Meshuggah is also another way to absorb the music in a very different way.
I hear you, what you cited is part of what I like so much. You seem to be more appreciative of melody than I often am. I love a good melody, but as often as not, bands get it wrong. I know you'll think I'm mental, but I just don't see the absolute worship of Mabool. I've tried it a couple times and some of it I really dig, but parts I just can't take. I have a strong suspician that part of what draws you to that album is the same thing I'm struggling with. I should get that out again in any case.
J.
Old Fart
Never did like Meshuggah. It just sounded like chugga-chugga to me. I don't give a damn about technicality, really. Just play a good song.
But if that's your thing, whatever........
But if that's your thing, whatever........
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
matt99_crew said:
You're right. There are tonnes of melodic bands out there that fail in the melody department. The reason why I like the new Primordial and Bruce Dickinson so much is because their songs contain melodies, and I remember the songs better because of them. I think it's a good thing if you can spot individual tracks apart from each other.
It's an epic, I've been listening to it for a whole year now. You've listened to it a couple of times?
....Come on, it took them 7 years to make. Give it some chance. But yeah, it could be an album that doesn't click for you.
You need to hear Chaosphere my friend. Oh yeah, and Catch 33 is one long song, they just broke it up for user friendless like Matt said. I asked Jens if there was some deeper meaning of the title and he said "nah, it was supposed to be 33 minutes long when we first started."JayKeeley said:
Meshuggah are my favorite band at the moment. I really can't get enough. The best environment for them is in the dark, paying complete attention. At least for me.
I love the new Primordial, the Dickinson I think is decent but not great. Mabool needs and deserves more chances, but those are hard to come by these days. Sometimes I lose out because of that.
As for old Bruce, I like a lot of ToS--the beginning and ending are great, but it bogs down in the middle. Not crazy about the ballad, and the next few songs are decent but don't do a great deal for me. The only song I DON'T like is Devil On a Hog. That sounds like his early stuff, which I don't care for. A prefect example of my feelings on melody--that song is packed with it and it does it in for me.
As for old Bruce, I like a lot of ToS--the beginning and ending are great, but it bogs down in the middle. Not crazy about the ballad, and the next few songs are decent but don't do a great deal for me. The only song I DON'T like is Devil On a Hog. That sounds like his early stuff, which I don't care for. A prefect example of my feelings on melody--that song is packed with it and it does it in for me.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
OK, but song of the year so far is "Kill Devil Hill", after "Coffin Ships" of course.
Mabool started as an 8.5 for me, now it's 9.5. One day it'll be a 10, no doubt. Jesus, the first song ("Birth of the Three") is one of my favourite songs of the last several years. That part at the 6:00 mark where the female choirs come in, man, the emotion just gets drained at that point. And then the way "Ocean Land" kicks in...fuck. me. sideways.
Messhugah is in the car. I cannot listen to it in the dark, paying complete attention, because I might swerve of the road.
Mabool started as an 8.5 for me, now it's 9.5. One day it'll be a 10, no doubt. Jesus, the first song ("Birth of the Three") is one of my favourite songs of the last several years. That part at the 6:00 mark where the female choirs come in, man, the emotion just gets drained at that point. And then the way "Ocean Land" kicks in...fuck. me. sideways.
Messhugah is in the car. I cannot listen to it in the dark, paying complete attention, because I might swerve of the road.
I'll agree--Kill Devil Hill is massive and Birth of the Three is damn good. (And obviously, a lot of what makes Kill Devil Hill so great IS the melodies).
Meshuggah is odd because if you listen passively it is oddly hypnotic, but when you listen more actively it is you know, like swerve off the road kind of intense.
Meshuggah is odd because if you listen passively it is oddly hypnotic, but when you listen more actively it is you know, like swerve off the road kind of intense.
Yep. Like I can listen to them at work and be fine, but then to really get into them I sit alone. In the night. In the dahk. [/The Haunting]matt99_crew said:
Demonspell
cheating the polygraph
I get the same reaction when listening to really complex music, after a few listening sessions with total concentration I become acclimated with it to the point that it sounds as natural to the ears as pop hooks do to a top 40 listener...while it's always reassuring to hear an uplifting melody (at least when it doesn't sound pandering), in that sense anything can eventually become melodic.
Try sitting down and listening to "I" and "Catch 33" back to back, thats what I did last night. Catch 33 seems to get better with each listen for me. I thought the lack of faster sections was a downer at first, but the CD just seems to flow so perfectly now that Ive absorbed it more.
I'll have to try that. Right now they seem to complement one another perfectly, or maybe like Catch 33 is like I but stretched out in terms of both length and tempo.En Vind Av Sorg said:
Agreed, at first I didn't find it nearly as good as I but now it's becoming better than it.En Vind Av Sorg said:
MFJ
Active Member
NAD, have you evar heard Mnemic? I saw them at that show with Dark Tranquillity and I sort of thought during their set that you would like them. I haven't heard much of Meshuggah, so I might sound totally ridiculous right now, but... check them out?
