Metal Musicians that can't program drums!! GET IN HERE!! This is AWESOME!!

[WillShrdForFood]

Now I know tons of you are already accomplished "drum programmers".

But those of you, like myself, that cant seem to program your own drums need to check this out as I just did. If your always in need of drum tracks in particular Metal - Extreme Metal drum tracks this is a loop disc containing nearly a 1000 loops and fills in .wav format that you can cut and paste together easily!! I have absolutely zero patience when trying to program drums. This might be just what I need.

And its only $33 bucks!


Drums From Hell :: Extreme Metal Loops

 

[-Gavin-]

Writing drums is easy as fuck, however, making them sound human is the challenge.


If these are humanized, i might pick these up for the fills.




Edit: They're wav... that's crap.


If it was midi, then maybe.

 

[WillShrdForFood]

Writing drums is easy as fuck, however, making them sound human is the challenge.


If these are humanized, i might pick these up for the fills.

There's some samples of the loops on the site, they sound pretty decent to me, but I'm not that picky.

 

[HeadCrusher]

[...] If these are humanized [...]

I wouldn't place a bet on that...
To me they (at least the samples on the page) sound very linear. Apart from that the samples are not realy "odd". Kinda simple drumming, I guess most of us could have easily programmed that themselves.

I realy hoped that this thread would contain some helpful information on how to make ones drums sound more natural...

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Yeah these sound ok to me. I agree with Gavin though it would be better if they were midi.

To hard to mix drums that are already mixed. How do you know they are gonna sound good in your mix? Well the fact is you don't and that is what is unapealing to me.

 

[Muttley]

Groove Monkee - Home have some decent metal drums in MIDI format. Also available with DFHS and BFD mappings as well as general MIDI.

 

[chadsxe]

Wow talk about capitalization off of a name...

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

Wow talk about capitalization off of a name...

lol I thought that too.

 

[HeadCrusher]

Tryin to get the thread back on topic a bit...

So let's say one is programming his drums with a velocity of 100 all trough the song. By which values would he have to (randomly??) +/- them (in terms of velocity and placement in the grid) in order to make them sound more natural?

 

[Wolfeman]

You answered your own question. Mess with the velocities randomly.

 

[Torniojaws]

Not too randomly though, as all Toontrack products have quite steep differences between even a short variance of velocity. Say, velocity 100 sounds like normal, and then velocity 90 sounds like the drummer is tapping the drum with a rice stick and with a damper fully on :S

 

[HeadCrusher]

Yeah, well I heard about randomizing velocities before but I don't know in which range I should randomize them. Also I don't know how to "automate" this in Cubase (I guess I won't have to pull each single note up/down in the velocity bar... ).

What about the position on the grid? Do you place your hits a little before/after the beat? How much?

BTW I'm on EZDrummer.

 

[kev]

i hate these dreaded things, there ahve been quite a few threads on em. I always felt they restricted someone what you want to do. Nonetheless can be inspiring tho i guess if you dont have a drummer about!

 

[Muttley]

Wow talk about capitalization off of a name...

How do you mean?

*confused*

 

[chadsxe]

How do you mean?

*confused*

Umm if your serious then that must mean you never heard of Drum Kit from Hell.

 

[Muttley]

Umm if your serious then must mean you never heard of Drum Kit from Hell.

Of course I have (I own DFHS). But that still doesn't explain what "capitilisation off of a name" means in realtion to Groove Monkee...

Muttley

 

[chadsxe]

Of course I have (I own DFHS). But that still doesn't explain what "capitilisation off of a name" means in realtion to Groove Monkee...

Muttley

I was not talking about Groove Monkee

 

[Muttley]

I was not talking about Groove Monkee

I'm an idiot.

As soon as I read that the stuff linked in the original post was WAV format I immediately dismissed it. Don't think I even looked at the name.

Muttley

 

[Loren Littlejohn]

You answered your own question. Mess with the velocities randomly.

Or even better get a 16 pad trigger and play the notes yourself (with velocity turned on)

Or even better get a trigger pad and some drumsticks

OR EVEN BETTER get a high end e-kit.


lol I suppose you would have to be at least a little good at drums at this point.

 

[trym^^]

tomas haake said he uses "drums from hell" in the
2005/12 issue of german drums & percussion.