Anyone can listen to whatever the fuck they want, your missing the point. I don't care what anybody on here says-you can't tell me that it doesnt piss you off when you see someone fuckin ridiculous listening to the music you love(depending on what the music is). The fact is that the closest thing to mainstream metal would be "nu-metal" being pumped through mtv and rock radio straight into the heads of the mindless drones who crave it. I love things like opeth, and i didnt come across them by buying the shirt in hot topic because it looked cool and satanic. When these noobs or whatever the fuck you wish to call them go and buy there shirts or go and pay 100 bucks for a ticket to ozzfest or maybe even go buy the latest cd there slowly decreasing the validity of the music. At this point the band is no longer a group of amazing artists but rather becoming a ridiculous fad. As far as you guys liking slipknot and mudvayne, etc. - I'm sure no one on this board was born in a mayhem or darkthrone t shirt, in other words we probably all started listening to that stuff because it was easily accesible. If you were young and liked heavy music you could just turn on mtv and see marilyn manson or someone on and then your a fan, but what i'm trying to say i guess is that we've(most of us) have grown out of that and realized that its not musically good. This is not to say that it is not entertaining, if you want to go see slipknot and watch a bunch of clowns jump around on stage while they play there shitty songs and you enjoy that than there is absolutely no reason why you shouldnt go and have a good time but as far as skill and musical genious your not gonna find that in any of today's mainstream bands(very few anyway). I just think it's stupid for kids today to go and pretend to be into these bands because i know that they won't give a shit about them in the long run( i'm not spoeaking for everyone i'm just going by what i've personally experienced and seen) and it sucks when these people don't appreciate it for the right reasons. It would be like me liking a sports team and supporting them because of the color of there helmets and uniform.