modern albums that aren't compressed/limited to death??

[darth_cupboardy]

Lateralus (album) in fact is o "un-compressed" that it sounds wierd to many of my "Metal"-friends, it's almost unnatural to them.
But that's the loudnesswar i think.
But i like lateralus

 

[beyond dead]

high on fire blessed black wings!!!

 

[Skaldir]

Thanks for taking the time to do this

 

[abyssofdreams]

Though not within the last years...
At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul

 

[Torniojaws]

Though not within the last years...
At The Gates - Slaughter of the Soul

Although it's not a very loud sounding album, the waveform is a right sausage :

 

[Kazrog]

I will make the argument that some types of music sound better brickwalled. Really fast aggressive metal certainly does. Porcupine Tree and Tool play infinitely more dynamic music than most.

 

[abyssofdreams]

Although it's not a very loud sounding album, the waveform is a right sausage :

That must be the re-issue?
Mine doesn't look like this

 

[ahjteam]

Thanks for taking the time to do this

No problem, but it was really no big deal...

Well it took like less than 4 minutes to download one song from an album from a random bittorrent server, then I just took it in the wave-editor without listening, took a screenshot, cropped at the same spot each time and added the text and put it next to the other waveforms and then I just deleted the song.

 

[MetalJonesy]

The new Iron Maiden album

yeah i remember when the album was released and caveman saying it wasnt being mastered at all!

 

[ahjteam]

Actually this last Disturbed album (10.000 Fists, which contain the song Stricken) is sensibly less overcompressed than all their previous albums.

It must be cool to be totally clueless?

 

[LydonB]

I will make the argument that some types of music sound better brickwalled. Really fast aggressive metal certainly does. Porcupine Tree and Tool play infinitely more dynamic music than most.

This is very true as well. I cannot really imagine something like the first full length Bloodbath album not compressed.

 

[ahjteam]

I will make the argument that some types of music sound better brickwalled. Really fast aggressive metal certainly does.

I disagree. Metallica's Master of Puppets and Black album are, in my opinion, one of the best sounding metal albums productionwise, and they aren't squashed. But when I was practicing audiomastering, I actually did a "brickwall mastering" -edition of master of puppets, I still have it on my harddrive. I also did some blasphemy and made a 3.34 long radioedit from the master of puppets song

 

[whitedamp]

It must be cool to be totally clueless?

Thanks for the sarcasm, but this is what I got here.

 

[ahjteam]

Thanks for the sarcasm, but this is what I got here.

You must have some other edition than I have, mine is all brickwalled.

 

[DestroyTheColossus]

I haven't taken a look at the waveform, but it seems like the Underneath The Gun CD is the most slammed CD i have heard. I know this is the less brick walled thread, but i thought it would be something to note. I think it was just mixed to be loud and then brick walled, cause it seems to tower over pretty much all the other CD's I own.

 

[Exocaster]

Although it's not a very loud sounding album, the waveform is a right sausage :

To be fair, it's not super-dynamic music to begin with. And Slaughter Of The Soul is fairly "natural" sounding for the genre.

I like more organic sounding albums myself, but much of extreme metal is based around really unnatural drum sounds and guitars played through boosted high gain amps- tones with so much gain the only dynamics are bass booms on palm mutes. After giving it some thought, I'll say this: if a band makes use of dynamic shifts in their music, even subtle ones, the mastering should reflect that. If those aren't present in the music anyway- and that's an aesthetic decision by the band- all I ask is that I don't hear it clip.

To me, even dynamics used subtly for emphasis can make heavy things sound heavier. I realize not everyone shares this opinion, and that, I think, is properly the band's- or at least the engineer's- decision, one that goes back at least to the mixing if not the tracking or even the writing stage.

 

[colonel kurtz]

i definitely agree that having some sort of dynamic shift makes the "heavy" parts come off as heavier...if master of puppets was the same thrashy shit all the way through, the breakdown(or whatever you want to call it) after the instrumental passage wouldn't be nearly as impactful

i liken it to drinking...if you drink a beer or 2 a day, then decide to smash a bottle of liquor 1 night, you're going to be way trashed. however if you start drinking a bottle everyday, then pretty soon it's just the norm, and it'll take a damn near lethal amount of alcohol to actually get drunk.

 

[26]

i liken it to drinking...if you drink a beer or 2 a day, then decide to smash a bottle of liquor 1 night, you're going to be way trashed. however if you start drinking a bottle everyday, then pretty soon it's just the norm, and it'll take a damn near lethal amount of alcohol to actually get drunk.

I really never saw the concept of duality explained closer to life

 

[colonel kurtz]

yea, well, at the end of the day, i think anything/everything can be related to the drink

 

[skuller]

somebody stole your wave form examples

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1966083