Most recent work - real drums/6505/JCM 900 - Rock/Metal

[AEL89]

I finished tracking the vocals for this band last week and this is my first, rough mix - just been working on getting everything tidied up, balanced and placed right.

Lots of work needed yet (especially vocals/solos - they're relatively untouched) but I'm interested in hearing opinions on where any of you would go from here - I have a few things in mind that need to be changed but I just want to see if anyone agrees.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1041607/FIRST MIX.mp3

(There's no limiting on the 2-bus so its a bit quiet)

EDIT:

Updated the mix a little bit. I bought the vocals down, reduced some of the cuts on the guitars and added a little bit of delay to the solos. Please share any thoughts guys!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1041607/SECOND MIX.mp3

 

[Carlsman]

Just listening on my laptop speakers now so i can't say much about the mix but it sounds pretty good and the song rocks!

 

[jipchen]

I think the vocals are a bit too loud, but that more "commercial" sound is probably what you were aiming for. I'd turn down the vox anyways But other than that, great sound.

 

[dcb]

yeah, i would turn the vocals down too. also the mix sounds pretty muffled and is missing depth. maybe try a great high shelf (like the harrisson 32) on that and see if it pops out.
on my opals its a little muffled... have to check on hifi speakers though..
edit : sounds actually pretty cool on hifi systems - cool! still would turn the vocals down a bit to gel better with the music

 

[kaomao]

great drums sound
I'd pay attention to the guitar sound, just make it bigger! it sounds a bit thin

 

[AEL89]

I think the vocals are a bit too loud, but that more "commercial" sound is probably what you were aiming for. I'd turn down the vox anyways But other than that, great sound.

Yeh, I'll try compressing the Vocal bus a little harder. Also need to start the labourious task of vocal automation

yeah, i would turn the vocals down too. also the mix sounds pretty muffled and is missing depth. maybe try a great high shelf (like the harrisson 32) on that and see if it pops out.
on my opals its a little muffled... have to check on hifi speakers though..
edit : sounds actually pretty cool on hifi systems - cool! still would turn the vocals down a bit to gel better with the music

Yeh man, I was high shelf boosting a lot at first but then I went back on it. I don't really have a great hi-shelf plugin but I agree that the track lacks a little air and I'd probably rather get that rectified in the mix rather than leaving it to a mastering engineer. Yes on vocals too, definitely needs a lot of automation and just lowering in general. Thanks man!

great drums sound
I'd pay attention to the guitar sound, just make it bigger! it sounds a bit thin

Cheers man. Layered A LOT of samples for this but really focused on good natural tones too. Made some pretty cool samples from the session too. Also didn't use any reverb - all room ambience and I'm happy with it. Tonnes of compression too. Yeh I think I may have cut a little too much 300. There's small cuts at 900 and 1k too so I probably over did trying to get some clarity. I might just try bringing the JCM 900 tracks up a dB (they're oozing marshall dirt mids!) and bringing them in a touch - they're panned 90 L/R at the moment and the 6505 tracks are 100.

Thanks for all the thoughts guys, any other opinions would be hugely appreciated. I'll post an updated mix tomorrow morning.

 

[AEL89]

New mix:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1041607/SECOND MIX.mp3