musicians?

Scourge of Malice said:
I think it depends on the style of music really. It seems that fans of more underground genres (ie most people on these forums) are more loyal to the bands they listen to as they know they don't make that much money in general and can make more of a difference buy purchasing their albums, where most of the people I know that listen to more "mainstream" music tend to download albums and burn then and never pay a penny for the music. But I guess those mainstream artists sell thousands or even millions of albums so maybe I'm completely wrong... but it seems that mainstream record companies are barely phased by downloading... i dunno, haha


I totally agree, it's the Pop/Rap market that suffers the most. Yet these are the largest markets worldwide, so the situation seems a lot worse than it really is. Metal on the other hand, is much different. We usually don't buy the CD's for just 1 popular song. We usually listen to the whole album. Most pop artists will only have that one good song per CD. Which makes downloading the song and saving $15 the obvoius decision.


dishcloth said:
I'm a musician. I guess I'll feel successful when people enjoy listening to the music I create. If people are continually asking me to make more music, I guess I must be on the right track.


Yes you are on the right track. With alot of the music I make, I'm not overly interested in sales. I just want to get the music out there for people to enjoy, and hopefully ask for more. So for me, success is knowing that someone is enjoying it.

Now I know that when you're starting out, you have to keep your self confidence level up and although one person might dislike your work, there will be others that like it. It's really tough to hear critical comments from a listener. But do not dispare, ask them what they disliked the most, also ask them what they disliked the least. You also need to take account of their credibility as a listener, in other words do they know what their talking about? You see alot of song bashing on these boards (and the whole internet), and while some are justified, alot of it are done by punks who cant get it going themselvs. Like people with ugly cats for example.
 
I've been playing guitar for 14 years. I just picked up bass this year.

Once upon a time I was in a band (college, aka "the good old days"), but haven't been since. I miss the hell out of it.

I record stuff for myself these days. The stuff really varies, though I've been told by my students (high school) a number of times that they can hear the Iron Maiden in my songs. I just write what sounds cool, and I try to do as good a job recording on my digital 4 track (which I dump into Cakewalk) as I can with limited tools. That I can be a stay at home dad and be recording metal seems like a success to me! :)
 
soundave said:
I record stuff for myself these days. The stuff really varies, though I've been told by my students (high school) a number of times that they can hear the Iron Maiden in my songs. I just write what sounds cool, and I try to do as good a job recording on my digital 4 track (which I dump into Cakewalk) as I can with limited tools. That I can be a stay at home dad and be recording metal seems like a success to me! :)

Lol, when my small children go to school I'm going to suggest that I be the stay-at-home parent rather than the "bore his arse off" parent and record metal at home all day. I get about one hour per day to practice, so it's really hard to progress quickly with anything.
 
Heckelgruber said:
Lol, when my small children go to school I'm going to suggest that I be the stay-at-home parent rather than the "bore his arse off" parent and record metal at home all day. I get about one hour per day to practice, so it's really hard to progress quickly with anything.

It's still hard to find time for it, believe it or not. Mine's still little, and we just found out we have another on the way! :) I've been working on recording one song now for about 5 months or so. Have to set up, record takes, and break down again between naps and all the rest of the daily housework type stuff. It's not easy. But when I'm able to do it, I consider myself pretty damn lucky.

Besides, my little girl loves the growly vocals. She thinks it's Cookie Monster.
 
:Wreath: said:
:lol:

I hope my children will think of it as positive! :D

It's all good until she actually understands what I'm saying! As of now, it all sounds like "yum-yum-yum" to her, I think.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
i hope my children arent terribly interested in growling vocals.

For the record, she likes actual singing a hell of a lot more. She just isn't terrified of growls like I had assumed she would be. For her, growls = cookie monster. It's her only frame of reference.

Her mom and I were in the same singing group in college. I've already seen signs that she's pretty musical. Chances are she'll gravitate to that sort of thing.
 
soundave said:
For the record, she likes actual singing a hell of a lot more. She just isn't terrified of growls like I had assumed she would be. For her, growls = cookie monster. It's her only frame of reference.

Her mom and I were in the same singing group in college. I've already seen signs that she's pretty musical. Chances are she'll gravitate to that sort of thing.

oh i wasnt saying that in any sort of derogatory way towards you or your children, im just going to try and steer my kids clear of metal if i can help it. at least awful modern growly metal, etc. if my kids want to listen to priest or mercyful fate or angel witch or manilla road, then im all for THAT. but if my son or daughter is caught listening to something like arch enemy or children of bodom, then were going to have some issues.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
oh i wasnt saying that in any sort of derogatory way towards you or your children, im just going to try and steer my kids clear of metal if i can help it. at least awful modern growly metal, etc. if my kids want to listen to priest or mercyful fate or angel witch or manilla road, then im all for THAT. but if my son or daughter is caught listening to something like arch enemy or children of bodom, then were going to have some issues.

poor children ;)

but you are aware that children often contradict their parents?
 
Powers said:
I hope my kids listen to as wide a spectrum of music as possible, it's what my parents tired to do with me. And that includes extreme metal.

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but seriously, what bands did they encourage you to listen?
 
:Wreath: said:
seriously, what bands did they encourage you to listen?

Oh neither of them are exactly musical experts, they really just didn't put any boundaries on what I listened to, my dad was really into Zeppelin, The Who and The Stones (which is probably what's led to my love of The Who) and my mam was really into 70's and 80's stuff which was really her era ABBA, Duran Duran, The Human League. Plus My dad was really into Motown as well and my mam was into Baroque, which at the time I thought was classical and she probably still does. Bare in mind the still love all this music. On top of that I had my grandad who was much more a fan of "Crooners" like Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra (which is no doubt where my love for that has come from) and film score music, plus my uncle who was a total metal head during the 70's. Sabbath, Deep Purple, etc plus he's still as into music as he ever was, for a nearly 50 year old guy his tastes are pretty current, moreso than mine in some respects. My Auntie who was hippie, listened to Grateful Dead and The Doors in her youth, wore moo moo's and no shoes (very odd). And finally my sister who was, and still, is really into dance music, although she's pretty open minded so I've got her listening to Katantonia, Arch Enemy and Dragonforce. My main point isn't that my parents had a massive effect on the music I listen to, although my mam adores Emperor (I think it's more the symphonic side she likes, and some Opeth), but that they never put any constraints on what I listened to. Really, if your kids like music that you don't it just means that they see something in it, or get something out of it that you don't.

It's all about variety and open mindedness.
 
:Wreath: said:
poor children ;)

but you are aware that children often contradict their parents?

yea, if theyre forcefed. but if i just HAPPEN to be playing my near flawless taste around them constantly without any sort of authority or force, then i reckon they wont need to rebel. much like how i grew up.