musicians?

NineFeetUnderground said:
yea, if theyre forcefed. but if i just HAPPEN to be playing my near flawless taste around them constantly without any sort of authority or force, then i reckon they wont need to rebel. much like how i grew up.


yea... you seem to have a tactic similar to my fathers... only I never got that much into jazz as he wished me to :lol:
 
Powers said:
Sorry, I think :Wreath: may have misread my post, my parents never encouraged me to listen to "extreme" metal, I was saying it one variety of music I'll encourage my kids to listen to.

oh dang... and I thought I'd finally hear about some parents that would :lol:
 
Well, to be fair there will be some out there but considering extreme metal didn't really exist until the early 80's, then most people who were among the first generation to listen to it, who'd probably about 13 to 18, which I'd say tends to be the most important time in the development of your musical taste, would probably only being having kids in the mid to late nineties. Therefore there kids probably wouldn't really be into music just yet or are maybe just getting into it. Nonetheless most of these kids probably still wouldn't be at the age where they could hold a mature disscussion about music incorporating a wide variety of musical genres into their taste.

With me it was really the other way round, like I said, I've intoduced my mam to some extreme metal, she's not a regular listener but i'd like to think I've broadened her horizons a little.
 
:Wreath: said:
yea... you seem to have a tactic similar to my fathers... only I never got that much into jazz as he wished me to :lol:


jazz is one of the last genres i ever got into. it REALLY takes a maturity level to full appreciate it...its not really accessible, or even "catchy" in most circumstances...so its appeal to a younger audience is no mystery to me. however, its a fantastic genre with a ton of talent and material to offer anyone willing to give it an honest try. guys like miles davis, john coltrane, charles mingus and thelonious monk are perfect starting points.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
jazz is one of the last genres i ever got into. it REALLY takes a maturity level to full appreciate it...its not really accessible, or even "catchy" in most circumstances...so its appeal to a younger audience is no mystery to me. however, its a fantastic genre with a ton of talent and material to offer anyone willing to give it an honest try. guys like miles davis, john coltrane, charles mingus and thelonious monk are perfect starting points.

at least their earlier works... unless you're an acid junkie, than you can easily start with Bitches Brew by Miles or the free jazz albums by Coltrane :lol: but I do admit, I began to appreciate jazz only long after my metalhead period...

I'd add Keith Jarret's earlier works to the list... I doubt if he's an easy listen but songs like Prism or My Song are absolutely magnificent
 
Seems to me that you're more apt to like a lot of jazz if you're a musician. Though how anyone could not like Kind of Blue is beyond me.
 
soundave said:
Seems to me that you're more apt to like a lot of jazz if you're a musician. Though how anyone could not like Kind of Blue is beyond me.


Well I observed the same... I think it's because if you don't play an instrument, I don't think you can fully admire improvisation, the fundament of jazz. I go to jazz concerts as much as I can because it's astonishing for me how perfectly some of these musicians cooperate and mutually respond, though they may have met only seconds before walking on stage (it happened a few times)...
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
thats why kind of blue is the best selling jazz record of all time. :cool:

Now I have to pop that in... just the thing for a sweltering day like today.

I'm sure you know about the remastered version? Which do you have? Both?
 
the remastered version includes an alternate take of flamenco sketches. it might even be better than the original, but not by far.
i love blue in green.
 
soundave said:
Now I have to pop that in... just the thing for a sweltering day like today.

I'm sure you know about the remastered version? Which do you have? Both?

i have an original vinyl pressing. a reissue cd, and then the latest remastered version with bonus tracks. i should probably unload the other cd copy...but it has some sentimental value.
 
NineFeetUnderground said:
i have an original vinyl pressing. a reissue cd, and then the latest remastered version with bonus tracks. i should probably unload the other cd copy...but it has some sentimental value.

I haven't heard the vinyl. Is the speed correction on the remaster noticeable, do you think?
 
The thing with "Kind of Blue" is that the original tape machine used in tracking was running a bit slow. If I understand it correctly, when they mixed it on a different machine that was running at normal speed, the recording played slightly faster. The new CD accounts for that, but it's a minor difference, apparently. I haven't heard the original, so I can't attest to the difference myself.

This is something different than the variablity of turntable speeds. I once heard Tom Dowd talk about his issues with vinyl, and it was pretty enlightening. He hated vinyl.