My band's new epic. (Real amps, real guitars, real bass, no eq no comp no nothing :D)

[GarethSE]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/631208/Foetus In A Jar/January/19 01 10.mp3

everyone loves the drone toad.

 

[Icony]

It got some good values for it, but it sounds...decent. Not "deep" enough. I didn't really got in the mood while song or this atmosphere was playing. It just sounded a bit irrevelant. I mean the mix is quite good, but It's just not working for me...Not sure. Althought it's a bit ear-to-ear. Very gentle, but nearly there. -> It needs something. (Maybe a album (daa) or some little meloby/riff). But Althougt I loved this some way...Well who doesn't who loves some ol'good drony?

 

[-Loco-]

Not very impressed. Drum's need a bit more ambience for the more atmospheric, soundscapeness. Background drone is seriously off-putting and annoying after a while and the song in general just doesn't really go anywhere. Its a tease

 

[GoofPig]

Will listen in a few hours when i get home!

 

[GarethSE]

Not very impressed. Drum's need a bit more ambience for the more atmospheric, soundscapeness. Background drone is seriously off-putting and annoying after a while and the song in general just doesn't really go anywhere. Its a tease

yeah id like to add reverb but we're taking a no production route with this band. want it all to sound like it did in the room

 

[-Loco-]

Fair enough, well maybe experiment with more techniques to get the atmosphere into the song i.e distant mics for the drums. It kind of reminds me of Deftones. A little bit.

 

[arv_foh]

jesus that 125 hz tone thru half the song just gets annoying... maybe you could at least add some variation to it at some point, do something interesting with it... the song really needs a room mic or verb the drums are just too dry and don't fit the mood of the song

IMHO.

 

[mburton21]

Yes, I would like to buy some acid!

 

[JeffTD]

yeah id like to add reverb but we're taking a no production route with this band. want it all to sound like it did in the room

If that's your end goal, then leaving the mic'd tracks raw and unprocessed is a terrible idea.

You want a stereo pair of room mics or some processing that makes it sound more like the room did; sticking a mic close up to something is going to sound WAY different than your ears a few meters back.

 

[GarethSE]

yeah id like to process stuff more, bassist is weird about it though haha

 

[coreysMonster]

if those toms sound that flat and lifeless in the room, then they need to do something about it D:
interesting, but those toms sound like their tuned looser and have more fuzz in them than Paris Hilton's vagina

 

[Chris_P_Critter]

What was your mic setup for this? Drums are really low I think, and lack some presence, and that could be a biproduct of how it was mic'd. I like the idea that you're going for natural sound (actually, that's kina cool), but it probably doesn't sound like the room - could you mic things differently to get more presence from each instrument?

Oh, and goooooooood call on the SD2 processing from Ola's thread - made a world of difference. I may send you a PM with a few questions, but great suggestions and thank you!

 

[BrettT]

I can't comment on the production of this as of yet, as I've only been able to listen to it while at work, but I definitely love the music. Makes me feel like I'm in an old, disgusting, barely-lit, smoke-filled jazz bar on a dark isolated road in the middle of nowhere.

 

[AEL89]

brutal

 

[GarethSE]

if those toms sound that flat and lifeless in the room, then they need to do something about it D:
interesting, but those toms sound like their tuned looser and have more fuzz in them than Paris Hilton's vagina

not enough inputs at college for tom mics
and theres literally like no fucking drum key at college, this place is like
as shoddily equipped as it gets. but i dont even have enough money for a drum key so im a bit fucked for the minute but i expect ill blag some money for one this week cos im sick of un-tuned toms.

and chris, mic setup was d112 on kick (which sounded like a beachball haha,) 57 on snare top, gonna put it closer next time but i do quite like the sound of it here admittedly and two AKG C1000's or whatever for Overheads
it does actually sound nearly exactly like how it did in the room, which is sort of incredible. i would like to process them a bit more and send them to a parallel comp bus just for some thickness. they sound a tad more wimpy than they did in the room. bass and guitar tones are spot on though, i wouldn't have processed them even if i was doing a more processed mix.

Guitar amps were Marshall AVT150 and some small Fender Tube Combo, blues junior or something. Some weird m-audio condenser on both amps as always for foetus in a jar (can never remember what they're called, ill check it later haha)
bass amps were: tiny behringer combo slaved to an ampeg b115 combo or something like that. d112 on the ampeg and 57 on the behringer.

 

[darthjujuu]

a little bit of verb would just make it sound even more like just in a room. if you go to a warehouse show, the drums do not sound like closemics, yanno? tell the bass player to quit bein such a pretentious party pooper. i wish i could put ozones mastering reverb all over this. and nothing else. then it'd be perfect and in my opinion exactly what it's supposed to be

 

[Chris_P_Critter]

Awesome man - so, it sounds like all you need is a little low / low-mid body and your golden.

When you posting the next jam, man!

 

[GarethSE]

well i didnt get out of bed until 5:30pm today so it wont be til monday D:
unless i can get a caretaker to open the music block for me for half hour tomorrow or something.

and julian feel free to do so and send me what you end up with
but yeah it is a mega mega dry room

 

[cloy26]

You need to add more sturgis, then it would be good.

 

[darthjujuu]

You need to add more sturgis, then it would be good.

lulz.