NAD!!! - Bugeral 333XL! Clips & Pics

I'm following this thread quite closely. One of my guys has this same head but a cheapo Marshall cab and I've been wanting to use it instead of all the amp sims but that cab keeps stopping me from going through with it. I can get a decent tone out of the sims just not good/great. Thanks for the instructions on how to use the head in conjunction with a cab sim/impulse. I have Nebula and bought a cab sim that seems promising. Might really work well with a real head.

This is what I came up with using Lecto and the Nebula cab. Do you think running the 333xl into the cab sim will sound better?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5144930/10-16 CLC PANNER OWNHAMMER ROSE.mp3

GG777- Which reamp box did you use for your tests?
 
No Re-Amp box I go straight from my Interface into a Tube Screamer then right to the amp :)

Tube screamer buffers the signal enough to be fine to send to the amp. On top of that I drive the Tube Screamer input pretty hard coming form the interface which adds some girth to the tone imho.
 
FearComplexMusic said:
You can have total silence if you use the fx send instead of the line out, just keep the master volume at 0 and adjust the level with the channel volume. At least that's the case with the 333.
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They make a line out on this amp for a reason. I personally wouldn't chance this. Especially since Bugera isn't made as well as the actual JSX.

Just use the Line out. Thats what its made for.
 
guitarguru777 said:
They make a line out on this amp for a reason. I personally wouldn't chance this. Especially since Bugera isn't made as well as the actual JSX.

Just use the Line out. Thats what its made for.
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How would having the master volume at 0 hurt anything? There's no output, therefore no juice to overload the OT. The line out is post-phase inverter, the FX send is not. That's why the MV effects the line out and not the FX send. That's the only difference, as far as I can tell after having cracked a 333XL open to fix a few design flaws (IE, the plastic connectors on the inside, rather than using them because they had melted, I soldered the wires straight to the lugs that stick out of the PCB)
 
If you get to know the amp a bit better I'm sure you'll get some cool tones out of it!
But what about your rectogasing dude? I thought you sold a lot of stuff to get closer to it, and now a bugera? ;)
 
guitarguru777 said:
No Re-Amp box I go straight from my Interface into a Tube Screamer then right to the amp :)

Tube screamer buffers the signal enough to be fine to send to the amp. On top of that I drive the Tube Screamer input pretty hard coming form the interface which adds some girth to the tone imho.
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Is it safe for the amp to do it this way? I guess all the reamp box does it convert a balanced signal to unbalanced unless I'm missing something. Hm. It'd be nice to save the $100 on the reamp box.
 
guitarguru777 said:
No not at all actually. Everyone's tastes are different.
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Correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't tried using my Krank Rev Jr with impulses...but wouldn't the line out have power tube saturation?
If not, what's the difference in using fx-send vs. line out? I thought that the line out would go through the power amp stage.
I'm thinking of getting a Hot Plate and recording using impulses as I've my first baby on the way and I'm gonna have to keep the volume down!
 
digitaldeath said:
Correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't tried using my Krank Rev Jr with impulses...but wouldn't the line out have power tube saturation?
If not, what's the difference in using fx-send vs. line out? I thought that the line out would go through the power amp stage.
I'm thinking of getting a Hot Plate and recording using impulses as I've my first baby on the way and I'm gonna have to keep the volume down!
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No the effects loop on all (someone correct me if I am wrong) is before the power section. The power section gives the amp its volume. The FX Loop comes right after the pre-amp in one of 2 ways depending on the amp.

Parallel - The signal is split off and sent to the effects and then when it comes back it is blended with the original signal and hit the power section.

Serial - The signal hit the FX loop and then hit the effects and then hits the power section of the amp.

The difference between the 2 is that a serial FX Loop is a 100% wet signal this is the case in the Rev JR. Its a serial loop. A paralell loop the main signal from the pre-amp section is split into 2 so you get a 50/50 mix of wet / dry into the power section. I believe this to be on amps that have an FX Loop "mix" control like a Recto or the Bugera
 
guitarguru777 said:
No the effects loop on all (someone correct me if I am wrong) is before the power section. The power section gives the amp its volume. The FX Loop comes right after the pre-amp in one of 2 ways depending on the amp.

Parallel - The signal is split off and sent to the effects and then when it comes back it is blended with the original signal and hit the power section.

Serial - The signal hit the FX loop and then hit the effects and then hits the power section of the amp.

The difference between the 2 is that a serial FX Loop is a 100% wet signal this is the case in the Rev JR. Its a serial loop. A paralell loop the main signal from the pre-amp section is split into 2 so you get a 50/50 mix of wet / dry into the power section. I believe this to be on amps that have an FX Loop "mix" control like a Recto or the Bugera
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Cheers for the info. I'm getting a 6505 soon and don't have a clue how to use it as it has a lot more knobs compared to the Rev Jr! Lol - yes, I'm a drummer!

guitarguru777 said:
OK so here is one more Rose Re-amp Im thinking I went a little too much gain.

This one is all 4 tracks of DI's with the Catharsis Fredman Impulses.

http://www.jasoncohenitservices.com/Bugera_Rose_Awesometime2.mp3
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I like it man! What IR loader did you use? ie. Was each guitar track a blend of the on and off axis IRs for the Fredman technique, or did you do it differently?
 
digitaldeath said:
Cheers for the info. I'm getting a 6505 soon and don't have a clue how to use it as it has a lot more knobs compared to the Rev Jr! Lol - yes, I'm a drummer!



I like it man! What IR loader did you use? ie. Was each guitar track a blend of the on and off axis IRs for the Fredman technique, or did you do it differently?
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Lepou IR Loader with the On 8 Pres and the Off 8 Pres blended 100% 100%

So its a blend of the on and off axis.
 
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