Need Opinions on this mix...

[guitarguru777]

Did this late last week and was wondering what you all think of it....

Personally i think is OK,

What improvements could be made ?

http://www.amyjoshouston.com/Yesterrday.mp3


Da Fukn Guru

 

[Familia><Publica]

link doesnt work.

 

[guitarguru777]

http://www.amyjohouston.com/Yesterrday.mp3

Try that

 

[Fyhed]

Drums sound very programmed.

Weird sound though, if your going for that electronic vibe then maybe the drums suite the mix.

The mix in general is a little muffled, but maybe thats cos its an MP3

 

[guitarguru777]

Yea im really not diggin the drums on this. I used a soundfont like an ass....lol

I think im going to use the samples i pulled from nevermores DHIADW CD... Vans drums with sneaps Eq'n might suite it better

 

[Familia><Publica]

Save up for drumkit from hell superior if your programming drums. How did you record the guitar tracks ? they sound a little weak. Like the synth though, very 80's.

 

[guitarguru777]

It was a clean guitar run direct into the PC then run into NI Guitar Rig.

Da Fukn Guru

 

[Familia><Publica]

Hmm, that would explain why the guitars sound weak and thin. Guitar rig is great for those late nights when you have the urge to play but dont want to piss the neighbours off. I'd never use the distortions from guitar rig, apart from maybe the overdrive pro ( screamer ) combined with ther rectifier model. The cleans are decent. Use a real amp for distortion.

 

[guitarguru777]

Lets see if you guys like these guitar tones better. I did this yesterday...

Its about a minute of a nevermore song... I was just testing out tones and techniques i found on the forum here

http://www.amyjohouston.com/42417_sample.mp3

Da Fukn Guru

 

[Familia><Publica]

Sounds alot better, but a little too scooped for my taste. Sounds abit too dated, 80's thrash kind of sound, i'd use more mids. Killer riffage though.

 

[guitarguru777]

Thats the problem im running into actually....

When i record my guitars for some odd reson im not getting any of the good lower mids. even with my mids on my amp cranked. i cant seem to find the right place int he mix to boost it a bit so it not so scooped.

My other issue is finding a good place to put the kick drum.

What i have been doing to try and train my ears is use a paramentric EQ and slide through the audio spectrum looking for the swwet spots for each instruments. but im not having much luck ...lol

Da Fukn Guru

 

[silverwulf]

The first clip...guitars are definitely weak, but when you explained how it was recorded, it made sense. The second clip sounded better with the guitars, but I agree with the above. It does have a very thrashy, old 80's sound which does kind of date it to a degree.

If you're micing an amp on the second clip, try to work around with mic placement too. For instance, when I did this quick recording with my little Crate practice amp:

http://jbeard.ho8.com/metalmedley2.mp3

...it sounds like it has more high end than what I was using. The treble was on maybe a "6" at best, and it doesn't even have a presence knob on the amp. This clip was juiced with a Maxon OD-808 in front, and the tone was set around 9 o'clock or slightly lower. Point being, sometimes you may have to work a little harder at the sound, because what's coming out of the amp may not always translate the same to a recording depending on mic placement and how it's recorded.

 

[guitarguru777]

All the guitars were done direct ...

Da Fukn Guru

 

[Familia><Publica]

using the line out of your amp i take it ? what amp are you using? i've had some decent recordings using the line out of my valvestate 8100, no troubles with mids.

 

[silverwulf]

All the guitars were done direct ...

Da Fukn Guru

Have you tried micing the amp yet?

 

[guitarguru777]

If i had a mic i would .... lol

I just started putting the studio back together and for some reason none of my mics made it down here.

Da Fukn Guru

 

[silverwulf]

If i had a mic i would .... lol

I just started putting the studio back together and for some reason none of my mics made it down here.

Da Fukn Guru

You gotta love that...my buddy and I were actually using a $5 Radio Shack mic for a while to record demo ideas for our old band back in the day. We were poor college students back then! For what it was, that little $5 mic sounded halfway decent with a little EQ'ing after the fact. It definitely got us through, and we ended up with better tones mic'd with that thing than we did direct...