need recommendations on Goth music

Maybe you haven't heard old Tristania? There is nothing pop-metal about them. Nothing that would lump them in with bands that I would put in that pop-metal category like Lacuna Coil, Within Temptation etc. And I find it hard to say how they are gothic when everything about them is gothic - the atmosphere, the keyboards, the violins, the vocals, the lyrical and musical themes (ie Poe), the appearance (though obviously that counts for little). Certainly more so than bands like the Cure, who are basically a gloomy pop band who wear makeup.

Ok, maybe Tristania wasn't the right comparison then, the other bands you mentioned are probably better examples of what I was getting at. But generally, it seems like whenever there's a band that has a female singer with operatic vocals and plays more or less symphonic pop-metal they are known as gothic metal, and I've just never understood that.
 
My goth selection: Season's End, Xandria, Bella Morte, L'Âme Immortelle, Within Temptation, Sirenia, Tristania, After Forever, The Sins of thy beloved, Nightwish, His Infernal Majesty (H.I.M), The 69 Eyes, Beseech, Charon, For My Pain, Zeromancer, Apotygma Berzerk, Lights of Euphoria, Inertia, Fear Cult, Rosetta Stone, Biotek, Die Laughing, Corpus Delicti, Suspiria, Christian Death, Edenbridge, Lullacry, To/Die/For, Entwine, Ivory Tower, Trail of Tears, Ancient Rites...
 
^according to who?

Katatonia's website.

It calls them 'dark rock from Sweden' on the main page which I would assume is tantamount to goth rock.

EDIT: It said it somewhere on their site. I am looking for it now and will link to it if I find it.

Metal Archives classifies them as doom metal/depressive rock.
 
^yeah, I also thought they were doom

Well, their earlier stuff is definitely doom (I have yet to hear any of it though). I think once Last Fair Deal Gone Down came out though, the Goth Rock roots were planted firmly in soil.

There are metal elements on TGCD, but it's more goth rock than anything else.
 
My favourite band, Type O Negative are tackily goth and quite camp at times when it comes to playing on Gothic Stereotypes. While not all of their material will appeal to people that are not into metal or atleast hardcore, October Rust is a gothic pop/rock masterpiece and a lot of Life is Killing me should appeal to people with that taste in music.

I love October Rust. I just bought it a week ago, and it rules.
 
My recomendation: Lobotomize yourself with a rusty screwdriver.

AND your friend.

Get into something real and worthwhile. Don't waste your time on this shit.
 
My recomendation: Lobotomize yourself with a rusty screwdriver.

AND your friend.

Get into something real and worthwhile. Don't waste your time on this shit.

my recommendation to you: go to the mall, I hear the brains are low priced these days

and while your there, buy yourself a life too so you don't need to bitch on someone's personal taste
 
uhm...
im quite worried that on a thread with 'goth music' in the name, only one person has mentioned Bauhaus...

Bauhaus were the band who started the whole goth thing.
just listen to them lol
then listen to Sisters of Mercy and Fields of the Nephilim
then Siouxsie and the Banshees and The Damned
then Dead can Dance
then Evanescence, Nightwish, All About Eve and Inkubus Sukkubus
then The Mission's early stuff
then The Cure's early stuff
also, make sure you like the Sex Pistols, as they started the punk movement and without them there would have been no goth.
 
Sisters of Mercy > All

And I don't consider Dead Can Dance to be gothic, but they are a brilliant band.

but didn't Siouxsie and the Banshees came before bauhaus?

Yeah they did.

Joy Division are essential too, though not gothic themselves.

These are all pretty obscure, but a lot has already been mentioned:
The Danse Society
Theatre of Hate
And Also the Trees
 
And I don't consider Dead Can Dance to be gothic, but they are a brilliant band.

Joy Division are essential too, though not gothic themselves.

You may not think so but they both are... when both these bands came out back in the day the Goth fans embraced both bands as being Goth... same with early Cure...
 
I know I'm good :p

but didn't Siouxsie and the Banshees came before bauhaus?

Yes they were... but they were more associated with the early Punk movement (late 70's clash/pistols era) then Goth since Goth as a genre was not even in existence in people's minds back then... Bauhaus was pretty much the first to be labeled "Goth". Then Siouxsie and the Banshee's were put under that label as well...
 
It depends on what is meant by "Gothic", the Visigoths and Ostrogoth's were two Germanic tribes in Europe. There was an architecture style of churches that had their influence in it, the style was known as "Gothic architecture". They had tall structures which pointed toward Heaven. Also the churches had few windows.

Another definition of Gothic is noting or pertaining to a style of literature characterized by a gloomy setting, grotesque, mysterious, or violent events, and an atmosphere of degeneration and decay: 19th-century Gothic novels.

So by Gothic you would be either looking for music with a somewhat holy sound which Within Temptation has or you might be looking for dark music. Some gloomy music I know of would be maybe "The End" by The Doors, that's a pretty dark song.
 
I don't get the association of "Goth" and satanism. It's so messed up, The Visigoths and Ostrogoths probably didn't even believe in Satan, or had nothing at all to do with him. The association probably came out of "Gothic" kids wearing dark clothes and dumb middle-school rumors of them worshiping Satan came out of it. Because middle-school kids love labeling people, and if they can't find something to support the label they make something up and look for tiny things people do to help support their lies.