The SOAPF thread is a trip. A chance to see Krofius in his prime, and me and A88 when we were young and full of hopes and dreams for IF. Then SC came along like a fucking plague and spread disease through all of us.
Jeez, I think you guys have been reading too many of the early forum topics on here Clayman is fantastic. Practically any legendary song would sound like shit if put through the Clayman 2020 filter. There's not a single song on Clayman I'd rate lower than 8 and most are 9 or 10. If good production mattered that much I'd be giving Foregone the same marks, rather than mostly 5 and 6's, so I think some of these takes are pretty exaggerated.
IF major dip in quality is from SC onwards. Pretty much everything before that is solid in terms of ideas, even if the execution is sometimes off (ASOP).
The SOAPF thread is a trip. A chance to see Krofius in his prime, and me and A88 when we were young and full of hopes and dreams for IF. Then SC came along like a fucking plague and spread disease through all of us.
Well, unfortunately I have to report that my post wasn't aimed at you it was based on comments about Clayman being "saved" by production, which is ridiculous to me. As if the music can't stand on its own merits.
Let us get back to the original point which was rudely deflected earlier: Foregone is vomit inducing. I just vomited again when I remembered listening to it.
In my opinion, here has more presence than ever. I'm at a point where I'm not sure if the metallic overprocessed effect is something else or just autotunes used throughout the whole album, to a point where they have even used it for the growls. Then, I will say, and I'm probably not wrong, that most of the vocal melodies have been written by Benson. There's no way that Anders is suddenly so "creative". For anyone who has been listening to the guy for the past decades, we all know that he's more "limited" than that.Well yeah, I've been listening to Anders and autotune machine doing the deed for a decade plus now, so it's not that gross to me anymore. I just roll my eyes at it.
In my opinion, here has more presence than ever. I'm at a point where I'm not sure if the metallic overprocessed effect is something else or just autotunes used throughout the whole album, to a point where they have even used it for the growls. Then, I will say, and I'm probably not wrong, that most of the vocal melodies have been written by Benson. There's no way that Anders is suddenly so "creative". For anyone who has been listening to the guy for the past decades, we all know that he's more "limited" than that.
But yes, for me, taking aside the music, that I don't really recognize anymore, the vocals are the lost annoying part of this album. Like, I could maybe, enjoy this kind of music coming from a different band, but the vocals, never!
Ok ok ok, probably this is directed at me. Maybe I was a bit too harsh.Well, unfortunately I have to report that my post wasn't aimed at you it was based on comments about Clayman being "saved" by production, which is ridiculous to me. As if the music can't stand on its own merits.
Damn dude, you ain’t playing around are you.In Flames Foregone -
The Beginning of All things that will end:
That title is humiliating. It's hard to take it seriously already. For at least attempting to do something outside of the plastic metal mold with a few acoustics, I can give it a few points. But I would never listen to this again by choice.
Feels like something he wrote in 15 minutes.
3/10
State of Slow Decay
Vocals are terrible. Why doesn't he growl more. I can't stand the scream thing.
I can't even concentrate. The part with growls is better. The solo sucks
Sung chorus thing is an embarrassment
2/10
Meet your maker
Cool drumming and ok intro. Singing is terrible. Chorus = wtf. No song would be above 3/10 with that chorus.
Solo has an interesting few moments. Irrelevant due to singing ruining the experience.
3/10
Bleeding out
Singing, christ. Can't finish it. 0/10
Foregone 1
Some effort in the music. Terrible vocals, I hate how he keeps holding the vowels. At least there isn't much singing
Some interesting musical moments. By the end the vocals were really frustrating me. 5/10
Foregone 2
Boring. Wtf is this singing. Can't finish it. 0/10
Pure Light of Mind
What kind of song is this. 1/10
Great Deceiver
A little better and less game breaking singing 4/10
In the dark
Good god. 0/10
A dialogue in b flat minor
0/10 can't finish it
Cynosure
0/10 can't finish it
End the transmission
I hate these vocals. 1/10
Overall = 1.5/10