New album Foregone out February 2023

Two possible reasons:

1. There are simply bigger and more relevent metal bands than IF these days, so they're down the pecking order. On the other hand, are Architects, Parkway Drive, Generation Sex and Hollywood Vampires bigger than IF? I don't even know the last two bands, but maybe they are.

2. IF are getting old and just don't want to do long festival sets anymore. I mean, they aren't that old but they've been doing this for a long time without a break, so maybe it's just catching up with them.
 
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Yeah, I mean Hollywood Vampires is Alice Cooper, Joe Perry from Aerosmith and Johnny Depp. No surprise there at all. I kind of feel like In Flames isn't really relevant anymore. I mean, they're the top band on their day among the more "underground" stuff I guess. Architects and Parkway Drive are miles more popular than IF is right now.
 
Well, I guess it's obvious I don't keep up with modern metal these days :rofl: although to be fair whilst I like a handful of Alice Cooper tracks, I've zero interest in Aerosmith or the Sex Pistols, or Johnny Depp for that matter, so I'm okay with not knowing those bands.

I remember Parkway Drive and Architects being these smaller bands that were making a name for themselves, but that was a while ago. Nice to see they've done well for themselves, as both are solid acts.



Always liked this one :cool:
 
I could be wrong, but it sounds like Nita's a fan and this was her take on writing an IF-inspired song. Autotune chorus aside, it reminded me most of A Sense of Purpose, there were some nice things going on melodically with the guitars, but Anders went in heavily with the 'yell-screaming' he used on that record, which is not my favourite of his vocal techniques. It makes me all the more appreciative of his harsh vox on Foregone, to be honest.
 
Jeez, he sounds awful on that. I mean, objectively he is a terrible vocalist, but they didn't even try to hide it here.
 
This is just evidence of what metal has become these days. Pure fakery. It's not different, anymore, from any other of the pop culture genres. And Anders fits perfectly into that circus.

Fucking hell. The song is embarrassing.
 
Anders: What people don't realise is that with a couple of production tweaks these vocals could easily have been on TJR
 
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Speaking of stone cold classics



What an absolute masterpiece this is (ignoring the fact the official IF channel for some reason has it uploaded with the wrong title). Melodies all over the place, solid drumming, and Anders' harsh vocals are absolutely blistering on this track. Cleans are obviously touched up, but not to the point of ridiculousness. It still sounds like him, and it sounds good. Why couldn't he just roll with this or SOAPF style instead of the fake bullshit we get now?

If the band were at loggerheads during this album, I wish they had been at loggerheads more often. If Anders left the others alone to do the instrumental parts and then just put the vocals on top afterwards, maybe we'd have kept getting great albums like CC instead of turds like ASOP and Siren Charms. With that said, Anders has said that he had nothing to do with STYE instrumental, so, maybe not.

Anyway, CTK is one of In Flames' best songs and has possibly the most epic chorus in their entire back catalogue. This track alone makes the entirety of Foregone look like an album for children.
 
Crawl Through Knives is probably one of my favorite IF songs. It just works so well. The band could've been just fine continuing with a style similar to RtR or CC. A more modern style without compromising much of their musical integrity. Also would've helped to hire a separate clean vocalist lol.
 
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I actually like that Nita Strauss song, tbh.

Crawl Through Knives is a highlight of CC for sure. I remember my MSN group at the time calling it the "gayest song" on the album. I think it's a little too eager to get to the chorus, but when the chorus is that good, it kind of makes sense.

I came across this song last year and the main riff here is quite similar to the main riff in CTK. Came out two years earlier than Come Clarity, too.

 
Crawl Through Knives is probably one of my favorite IF songs. It just works so well. The band could've been just fine continuing with a style similar to RtR or CC. A more modern style without compromising much of their musical integrity. Also would've helped to hire a separate clean vocalist lol.

They just never seemed comfortable with any kind of identity. It's ironic that people call their post-Clayman work evolution, because they actually never evolved a sound, they just moved to a different one. Colony > Clayman is the closest they came to evolving a sound, although admittedly that was basically from perfect to perfect, so not much else to do there. I suppose you could say LS > Sub > TJR > Whoracle as well, albeit the makeup of the band was totally different back then. From Reroute onwards their production values were all over the place, which doesn't help when trying to achieve any kind of consistent sound. It's nice to try new things, obviously, but it felt more to me like they were never comfortable with themselves and their output. Not enough to evolve a sound further, anyway.

I don't think they needed a separate clean vocalist, Anders was fine with the right production. Granted he could never do it live, but at least back then the clean vocals on the album were imperfect too, so it was less jarring live. ASOP was where they started going overboard with trying to make Anders sound far better at cleans then he really is, and it only got worse from there. If you listen to Come Clarity (the song) for instance, the clean singing on there is actually not very good at all. I'd even go as far as to say it's pretty bad. So, when it sounds bad live too, then that's not a surprise.

I actually like that Nita Strauss song, tbh.

Crawl Through Knives is a highlight of CC for sure. I remember my MSN group at the time calling it the "gayest song" on the album. I think it's a little too eager to get to the chorus, but when the chorus is that good, it kind of makes sense.

I came across this song last year and the main riff here is quite similar to the main riff in CTK. Came out two years earlier than Come Clarity, too.



I seem to remember the reaction on the Everdying forums at the time was quite positive towards CTK. STYE was widely hated so CTK and CC as a whole was a relief to a lot of people. On CTK they do go to the chorus a lot, but one thing I would say in their defence is that they change it up a lot, the choruses all have some kind of variation to them which helps make it sound fresh throughout the song.

One other thing I like about CTK, and CC in general, is the tasteful use of electronics. They add to all of the songs without coming across as overbearing or out of place.

Even though I don't like that Illdisposed song, I can hear what you mean regarding the CTK riff. Definitely similarities.
 
I love everything about that song. The intro. The riffs. The transitions... Everything feels perfect.
 
If there was one, minor complaint I'd have about the song it's the fucking wah on the solo. A Bjorn trademark, but I really could do without it.