news: Osama bin Laden is dead!

I don't get all these theories about Bin Laden being dead in 2001 and all that...if that were true, wouldn't Bush have taken credit for it? Why wait 10 years?
 
because you were taking fucking bupropion sr? seriously bro? taking a single sustained release pill of an antidepressant isn't "drugged up" lol

It makes me very sleepy sir :loco:

I've been reading up on Educate-yourself.org for a while now and some of the things they talk about make quite a bit of sense.

Going back to 911 how was osama able to know that there were going to be tons of training scenarios going on at the same time that would make his plan possible?

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/binladeenfairytalemagic20feb07.shtml

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/100107_b_explosives.htm



Mathiäs;9799572 said:
I don't get all these theories about Bin Laden being dead in 2001 and all that...if that were true, wouldn't Bush have taken credit for it? Why wait 10 years?

Because they suppose the government was behind 911.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20059739-503544.html?tag=breakingnews

Obama: I won't release bin Laden death photos

In an interview with Steve Kroft for this Sunday's "60 Minutes" conducted today, President Obama said he won't release post-mortem images of Osama bin Laden taken to prove his death.

"It is important to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence or as a propaganda tool," said the president.

"We don't trot out this stuff as trophies," Mr. Obama added. "The fact of the matter is, this is somebody who was deserving of the justice that he received."

The president said he had discussed the issue with his intelligence team, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and that they agree with the decision. White House press secretary Jay Carney said Wednesday that Mr. Obama made the decision today.

In explaining his choice not to release the photo, Mr. Obama said that "we don't need to spike the football." He said that "given the graphic nature of the photo it would create a national security risk."


The president told Kroft he saw the photos following the raid on the compound and knew that bin Laden had been killed.


"We discussed this internally," he said. "Keep in mind, we are absolutely certain that this was him. We've done DNA sampling and testing. And so there is no doubt that we killed Osama bin Laden."

When Kroft noted that there are people in Pakistan and elsewhere who believe bin Laden is still alive, the president said "we we monitoring worldwide reaction."

"There is no doubt that Osama bin Laden is dead," he said. "Certainly there is no doubt among al Qaeda members that he is dead. So we don't think that a photograph in and of itself is going to make any difference."


"There are going to be some folks who deny it," he added. "The fact of the matter is, you will not see bin Laden walking on this earth again."

Video of the comments will appear on the CBS "Evening News" on Wednesday.

Asked about the decision Wednesday, Carney said "there are obviously arguments to be made on either side."

"The fact of the matter is, as the president described, these are graphic photographs of someone who was shot in the face -- the head, rather," he said. "It is not in our national security interests to allow those images, as has been in the past been the case, to become icons to rally opinion against the United States. The president's number one priority is the safety and security of American citizens at home and Americans abroad. There is no need to release these photographs to establish Osama bin Laden's identity. And he saw no other compelling reason to release them, given the potential for national security risks. And further, because he believes, as he said so clearly, this is not who we are."

"He wanted to hear the opinions of others, but he was very clear about his view on this," Carney added. "And, obviously, his decision is categorical."


Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC, called the decision a "mistake."

"The whole purpose of sending our soldiers into the compound, rather than an aerial bombardment, was to obtain indisputable proof of bin Laden's death," he said.

Neil Livingstone, Chairman and CEO of Executive Action and author of nine books on terrorism, also disagreed with the decision.


"If we can't conclusively demonstrate that indeed he is dead there will be those who say he is still out there," he told CBS News. "Al Qaeda might even try to keep his legacy going and say 'they got someone else, they didn't really get him.'"

Sarah Palin registered his disapproval on Twitter.

"Show photo as warning to others seeking America's destruction. No pussy-footing around, no politicking, no drama;it's part of the mission," she wrote.

Republican House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers said earlier in the day that the Obama administration should not release the gruesome post-mortem images, saying it could complicate the job for American troops overseas. Rogers told CBS News he has seen a post-mortem photo.

"The risks of release outweigh the benefits," Rogers said. "Conspiracy theorists around the world will just claim the photos are doctored anyway, and there is a real risk that releasing the photos will only serve to inflame public opinion in the Middle East."

"Imagine how the American people would react if Al Qaeda killed one of our troops or military leaders, and put photos of the body on the Internet," Rogers continued. "Osama bin Laden is not a trophy - he is dead and let's now focus on continuing the fight until Al Qaeda has been eliminated."

Skeptics have called on the United States to release photos of bin Laden, who officials say was shot in the face during a raid on his compound, in order to prove that the al Qaeda leader is really dead.


The White House had said it was debating whether to release the photographs. CIA director Leon Panetta told CBS News Tuesday that he thought a photo would be released, though he said the White House would make the final decision.

CBS News national security correspondent David Martin has been told the photographs are "very gruesome" and won't be for the "squeamish."

"I've had it described to me and it does sound very gruesome," he said. "Remember, bin Laden was shot twice at close range, once in the chest and once in the head, right above his left eye, and that bullet opened his skull, exposing the brain, and it also blew out his eye. So these are not going to be pictures for the squeamish."

Two Republican senators -- Saxby Chambliss, R-GA, Vice Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Armed Services Committee, and Sen. Kelly Ayotte, R-NH, a member of the Armed Services Committee - told CBS News Wednesday they had seen post-mortem photographs of bin Laden. No Democrats have said they have seen the images.


Photoshopped images purporting to show bin Laden after he was killed have already surfaced on the Internet.
 
Right. So describing the photos of a guy who was shot twice, once in the head that caused his melon to fucking explode is somehow less graphic than actually seeing the pictures and won't cause any more or less uproar from the retarded jihadists around the world. Makes sense.

This shit pisses me off. Everyone around the world watched as people in two airliners crashed into the WTC buildings, and witnessed people burning and leaping to their death, as well as inevitably being smashed to death by the two collapsing towers. But yet providing the rest of the world with a little satisfaction by publicizing the indisputable evidence of the most wanted man on the planet shot dead isn't appropriate and will just cause more problems. What, the fuck, ever.
 
I wish I knew what those SEAL's who shot him are feeling right now. Most soldiers have a large problem killing enemy combatants, even when justified.
I'm also really curious what kind of power vacuum has been created, and if there will be in fact any revenge from the network. Wikileaks released a bit of info about "raining down nuclear hell" from some gitmo detainee's when the subject of Laden's capture or death was brought up. Then again, it was a gitmo detainee, it's not like they are the most reliable of informants (you know, because they were probably tortured to the point where they would say anything).
The guys who took him out were DEVGRU. Those are the same guys that the last Medal of Honor game was about. If wikipedia is correct, they basically eat babies and shit grizzly cubs. I imagine they're getting wasted and chest-bumping each-other.

Of course. You see, I just touched my cock a minute ago. "My" begins with m, as does the word "moon." "Cock" begins with c, as does the phrase "can't possibly have landed on it." Check it out in my new film, Zeitgeist: My Cock.
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Right. So describing the photos of a guy who was shot twice, once in the head that caused his melon to fucking explode is somehow less graphic than actually seeing the pictures and won't cause any more or less uproar from the retarded jihadists around the world. Makes sense.

A picture is worth a thousand words. A picture can be put on posters, on signs, in the media. A verbal description is nothing. I don't think they should release a picture. At best, it's satisfying a rather morbid desire. At worst, it's turning Osama into a martyr.
 
Just wait for the inevitable leak like everybody else mister. I'm going to laugh is someone leaks the live video of it all going down too.
 
Going back to 911 how was osama able to know that there were going to be tons of training scenarios going on at the same time that would make his plan possible?

Who says he did? Also 9/11 is a pretty well-established day of prepardedness or whatever. The better evidence of a conspiracy is the fact that there was a memo warning of a potential attack on September 11 or something like that. My memory on all this shit is hazy because I got really tired of conversing with 9/11 thruthers years ago.
 
^same here. Some conspiracy theories are fun to think and converse about. But then there are conspiracy theories like 9/11, which I enjoy calling people fucking morons for thinking it's possible for someone like OBL to be smart enough to coordinate this amazingly elaborate scheme from a goddamn cave and/or be in cahoots with the US government.
 
But guys, Obama bin Laden devised 9/11 as a means to destroy our national spirit. Thankfully we collected all the dragonballs and wished for his potaro earrings to be ripped from his earlobes, and that's how he split into the future president and that bearded guy who lives in the sand/million dollar compounds.
 
If we summon the ten star dragon we can put an end to this once and for all.
 
But guys, Obama bin Laden devised 9/11 as a means to destroy our national spirit. Thankfully we collected all the dragonballs and wished for his potaro earrings to be ripped from his earlobes, and that's how he split into the future president and that bearded guy who lives in the sand/million dollar compounds.

And the NWO along with the lizard people helped Laden get away with 9/11!
 
But guys, Obama bin Laden devised 9/11 as a means to destroy our national spirit. Thankfully we collected all the dragonballs and wished for his potaro earrings to be ripped from his earlobes, and that's how he split into the future president and that bearded guy who lives in the sand/million dollar compounds.

:lol:
 
Dakyrn, if you are privy to some knowledge the rest of us aren't aware of, I suggest you share your sources.