It's 'Too Extreme' for its own good. Without a doubt a modern extreme metal classic. In all seriousness I did not have a problem with the album to the extent of what everyone did when it came out and I first heard it. I'm glad Steve Tuck is back, the guy is a beast and the band should be putting out albums like Gateways To Annihilation and Formulas Fatal to The Flesh. I grew to like Heretic despite the production lacking, but if I had to listen too Heretic or Illud would choose Illud.