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I actually consider the first two to be virtues. And where the heck is my new Ipad anyway? I want it now or I am going cry and call my mother.
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I actually consider the first two to be virtues. And where the heck is my new Ipad anyway? I want it now or I am going cry and call my mother.
This is where you´re wrong.
South Korea managed to go from a shithole position to a major economy in less than 2 decades because the government heavily invested in education, not because "everyone decided to be smarter and work harder".
Where I live people have to make a shitload of money to pay for private education, health, food, safety and transport because the government does not provide what they were supposed to provide with all the money collected from taxes. It goes all on corruption and bailing out bankers.
The politicians decisions have ALL the effects on how hard your life will be, and if people just bow down and obey them, it will never change. You'll probably repeat your free-market mantras until they come for you, just like it is happening in countries like USA, Greece and Spain.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
You just insulted almost all successful people on this planet.
If you really believe in what you said, i can only feel bad for you.
No sense in trying to convince you that the reality is not as bad.
CU in some other controversial thread.
Believe in yourself, be a good person, etc etc etc
Buddy I live in one of the richest countries in the world.
There's lotsa billionaires, but also people doing hard manual labour for a hundred dollars a month.
Most of the world still doesn't have internet to bullshit on forums.
Reality is not as bad, it's goddamn horrible. Or have people living under a dollar a day sudenly disappeared off the world map?
Successful people? If you're working for someone else (unless you have a C before the other two letters of your job title of course), that's not "capitalist" success.
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Kvoid what country are you from?
And where is my Ipad already?
me? I'm from a little place called Bosnia & Herzegovina
I haven't been there in 5 years or so though.Ever heard of analogy? Funny how this thread derailed into Apple bashing. I just took a consumer product that seems to have a lot of hype around it (considering we're talking about NYC protests and consumer sales account for 70% of the US economy). Literal people kill me.
Since you consider ruthlessness and conviction as virtues, let me guess your favorite book
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Unfortunately I am at my vile capitalistic job (that murders puppies in china, for fun no less) which blocked that image.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
The Bible? I love that fucking collection of "books"!
Someone give midget his damn Ipad. Nigga all sad and shit.
Someone give midget his damn Ipad. Nigga all sad and shit.
Let him get out and protest 
He might get some police batons on the rump though, but I'm sure he ain't gonna get no stimulus gizmos by sitting at home and doing nothin 'bout it.
He might get some police batons on the rump though, but I'm sure he ain't gonna get no stimulus gizmos by sitting at home and doing nothin 'bout it.
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Don't worry SocialNumb my wife tricked her workplace into giving her an Ipad recently so I am good. She asked if she could have an Ipad with actual Chinese blood on it but they said no.
The bible. I love reading the first half were all the real entertainment is. New Testament bores me to sleep. My favorite story in the bible is wear some children make fun of a bald man, so god sends she-bears to eat 42 of the kids. I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.
You can find some great quotes at:
http://www.evilbible.com/
That site doesn't make up quotes from what I can tell, I have checked a bunch of verses myself.
The bible. I love reading the first half were all the real entertainment is. New Testament bores me to sleep. My favorite story in the bible is wear some children make fun of a bald man, so god sends she-bears to eat 42 of the kids. I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair.
You can find some great quotes at:
http://www.evilbible.com/
That site doesn't make up quotes from what I can tell, I have checked a bunch of verses myself.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
That site is an oldie but a goodie.
I like this one too: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/
That's good you got that Ipad problem taken care of. I didn't think you would make it through day. Sorry about the Chinese blood. Maybe soy sauce will do for now?
I like this one too: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/
That's good you got that Ipad problem taken care of. I didn't think you would make it through day. Sorry about the Chinese blood. Maybe soy sauce will do for now?
well OK see you later
To follow up though,
Big companies routinely lose billions of dollars a year. Of fortune 500 companies, 170 of those lost an average of 2.5 billion in 2007 alone. If a loss like that even falls 10% on a CEO's shoulders, which I would say is very underestimated, then that is still $250 million. So is it worth it to a company to offer $50million to someone they think will NOT lose all that money and worth? Of course. The simple explanation is supply and demand at work here. Standard labor market stuff! I don't get all the hate....
The general public may not be able to comprehend why some guy is worth 50million a year, but the general public neither has the experience or the expertise to assign a value to a CEO. The people who DO have the experience and expertise to best evaluate a CEOs worth are the very people who are hiring a CEO for THEIR company. They also have giant vested interested in seeing the company prosper and not fail. So would it be a great idea to overpay a CEO 30million a year for no expected benefit? Of course not.
Of course that is possible. I think something like 4/5 of American millionaires earned it in their lifetime.
But I would not say IQ or hard work is required.
Government/politicians have a lot to do with the success of its people.
If there is corruption, business will go elsewhere. If they pass laws that put businesses at a competitive disadvantage, they will go elsewhere. If property rights are not secure, business will go elsewhere. If government is shaky, and there is uncertainty in the air, business will go elsewhere. Pretty common sense. This has been seen in many countries. Invested money strongly tends to be in wealthy countries, with stable governments, with laws they can count on.
Another thing....
Anti-capitalists often are angered at the fact that intelligence and hard work are not the basis for salaries or ultimate success. At the same time, capitalists often profess that these 2 things are how one can acquire wealth.
Well they are both wrong. The second view is wrong because the acquisition of wealth or high pay does not depend on those things, although often correlated. The first view is wrong because those things should not be the basis for wealth or pay if we want an efficient, wealthy country.
If there is corruption, business will go elsewhere. If they pass laws that put businesses at a competitive disadvantage, they will go elsewhere. If property rights are not secure, business will go elsewhere. If government is shaky, and there is uncertainty in the air, business will go elsewhere. Pretty common sense. This has been seen in many countries. Invested money strongly tends to be in wealthy countries, with stable governments, with laws they can count on.
Another thing....
Anti-capitalists often are angered at the fact that intelligence and hard work are not the basis for salaries or ultimate success. At the same time, capitalists often profess that these 2 things are how one can acquire wealth.
Well they are both wrong. The second view is wrong because the acquisition of wealth or high pay does not depend on those things, although often correlated. The first view is wrong because those things should not be the basis for wealth or pay if we want an efficient, wealthy country.
What decades of S. Korea are you referring to? They have been through a lot of political changes over the years.
Where you live, does government finance public schools?
Nope. Corruption is exactly what is good for business. I have a crap factory that makes useless shit. I slip a million bucks on the politician's pocket and he closes a deal that makes the government pays a billion to my factory every year. He becomes rich. I become rich. The people pays the bill.
Nope. Invested money goes to poor countries with lots of miserable people that accepts to work for barely nothing, maximizing profits for the company. The companies and their rich countries corrupt the poor country government to put a dictator on the power that will keep the things the way they are and kill anyone who protest.
What IS common sense, is that there will be a time where there wont´be more jobs at rich countries, since the companies only hire semi-slaves in poor countries. Jobless people don´t consume and the companies will find themselves with a bunch of products and no buyers.
At this point, the corrupt government usually invent a new war or bail out the companies using public money.
Hooray for free-market. Marx already knew this shit more than a hundred years ago.
They´re angry because it is a system based on exploration. A reckless system clearly destined to collapse on itself, and yet ignorant people defend it like christians blindly defend their faith.
Apple made $65 billion last year. How about use part of that money to treat factory workers like fucking people instead of sharing all the profit between half-dozen fags?
SocialNumb
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