O/T Now let´s go somewhere more ethic...

THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN! THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS! DON´T TALK ABOUT DEATH! TALK ABOUT HAPPY THINGS LIKE TUBES, DROOLING AND NOT RECOGNIZING YOUR PARENTS!

*runs away again*
 
For 15 years this woman has been in a vegetative state. There is no quality of life there. I understand that her parents care for her, but they are being selfish. They are keeping her alive for their own well being. They do not want to see their daughter die no matter what it may be like for her.

I already have a living will. I do not want to be left alive after more than a year. I want a chance, but after that time limit expires I want to move on. 15 years, her chances are slim to none. If they truly loved her, they would let her rest. If that means death, so be it.
 
This is why it is very important for people to have a living will to express their wishes in a legal document. My personal views are that the husband knows what his wife's wishes are and if they are that she would not want to live like this then the feeding tube should be removed. But I can also see the parents side of things as their is no legal document expressing her wishes and no parent wants to bury their child it is just not natural. Very difficult matter for sure.
 
Yes, I could understand the parents if it happened to her something like two years ago. But she´s been a vegetable for 15 fucking years... fuck it let´s do it my way, take away the tube, stuff her and give her to the parents as a christmas gift. The husband won´t have to see her in the tragic state and the parents have the body of her.

I don´t know the timelimits or the percentage for recovery but after 5 years I guess it´s a big downhill.
 
I think that the biggest thing here is that there is little to no brain activity. She will NEVER be on her way to "normal" again. It's not like she's in a coma w/full brain activity.
 
Ragamuffin said:
She's not agonizing and loathing her fate because shes not there. At all. In any way.
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My bad! Less suffering for her... If she's not there at all and if there's no chance whatsoever that she'll ever regain a bit of a consciousness and be able to lead her life on a level that's close to normal - pull the plug.
 
Skorned1 said:
I think that the biggest thing here is that there is little to no brain activity. She will NEVER be on her way to "normal" again. It's not like she's in a coma w/full brain activity.
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she should die. but i honestly think they should kill her. because having the feeding tube out just causes her to have a long drawn out painful death. She's somewhat responsive so i think she can still feel pain. although they haven't shown a video of her reacting to something like a pin prick. so i dunno.
again though i think she needs to be released.
-Jono-
 
MY Father was a Mortitian..... I grew up around a funeral home.... i have seen a lot of Dead people.... she has no quality of life and never will. The GOVT. needs to stay out of this and so does the church. I feel for her parents but they need accept that she brain dead.
 
i"m sorry, but i concider a vegitative state more like comotose. To me from what I've seen on t.v. she seems mentally challanged. I wouldn't want to live like that but that's me and how I feel right now. That fucking shitbag of a husband of hers needs to be brought up on murder charges, he will not even let them to try and actually feed her. Yea, he's a real ass in my opinion. If her parents want to try and help her then why wont he let them. At least her parents want to try and help her. My biggest problem is that her "husband" hasn't allowed anyone try and get her back to a normal state. Don't forget that it took like 7 years before her "husband" rememberd that they had one conversation about not wanting to live like she is now. If starving someone to death is so humane why not just let those who are starving just go ahead and die. Hell, I wouldn't want to live in one of those 3rd world shit holes. You could almost use that I wouldn't want to live that way excuse anywhere. Teri Schiavo has people who want to try and help her get better, too bad her "husband" wants her dead so damn bad. I think they should let the parents take over as her guardian and at least try. Like I said earlier in this post, too me she just seems severly retaded but does anyone her advocate killing the severly retarded just because they can't care for themselves. That would be crule and you all know it. A mentaly challanged person can't even get the death sentence if guilty of a crime that warrents it because the courts found it to be cruel and unusualy.
 
I heard a tasteless joke about this today, which I feel compelled to share with y'all.

With apologies to Johnny Carson's "Carnac, The Magnificent"

Michael Jackson, Ron Artest, Terry Schiavo






Name a fruit, a nut, and a vegetable
 
What you see on TV is edited to make it look like she's alive. She follows a balloon and looks at her mother when she talks the same way a plant turns toward the light. It's not something she does consiously.
 
In Sweden they stopped using the term "Brain dead" about 15 years ago just because cases like this. Familys arguing over organ-donations while the persons who needed a new heart lay dying because of this term. The medical boards and government removed the term. If your brain-activity is down to zero you are dead.

It´s still the family who decides what to do with the remains if the dead person left no will (written or oral) but at least they are declared dead.
 
She is not "mentally challenged", she is nowhere close to that. A good portion of her brain matter (cerebral cortex-which handles about all processes of higher thought and movement) has turned to spinal fluid. It's not coming back. Despite what certain doctors have told you about her being able to rehab back to a better life (one even had the audacity to say that she could walk again)-it's not happening. This is no one's business but the family's, congress and everyone else needs to stay out of it.
 
I really don't know what to think. The parent's need to let her go and accept the fact that her life is over and has been for 15 years but at the same time you have to understand why they wouldn't want their daughter to literally starve to death. Starvation is such a nasty way to die. They should just give her something to make it quick and painless.
 
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