But tube amps don't really need that much service IME, besides changing the tubes 
Then again, I've never owned one more than like 15 years old...
Then again, I've never owned one more than like 15 years old...
Ocean Way Studios - Gear Porn
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Öwen;8741852 said:At the college I'm going to there's a tonne of analogue gear and yes, it breaks all the time - the desks especially, usually the patch bay on the desks goes first and you'll get channels bleeding into each other because the connections are bad, but yes they're very sensitive, I couldn't explain to you exactly why they're all so unreliable but they are (one would imagine mainly to do with age on some of these things)
Quick anecdote: recently the whole college unit decided to step down the whole voltage coming in from 240v to 220v (or something similar I was told - not much of an electrician so what I'm saying may be grossly inaccurate, but it was in some futile attempt to save money) without realising that these desks are that sensitive that running less power through them can absolutely knacker them as they try to draw more out, so now the college has botched every analogue MTA desk in the place in an attempt to save money - these desks were worth about ten grand a piece.
Edit: 30k apparently: http://cgi.ebay.com/TRIDENT-MTA-SER...ItemQQimsxZ20091120?IMSfp=TL091120195002r3162
Damn, what a 'tard maneuver - so did they completely fuck them, then? Sounds like troubleshooting those things would be the ultimate nightmare, I can see why people go all-ITB! Then again, is it mostly the desks that are the culprits, or the outboard as well?
Line666
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I dunno if they're completely fucked, but we've been left using big protools mice for the last semester, so it doesn't sound hopeful.
I've not had any problems with the outboard stuff, mainly just the desks, (the outboard gear is fairly limited, so I hardly ever find myself using it though) they see a lot of use though, but I can't stress how annoying it is when you're starting up a session and something just isn't working properly, you've troubleshot everything and you have to conclude that the desk is just gone in certain areas. I prefer just using Protools because these things are more trouble than they're worth most of the time.
Same shit happens on newer live analogue desks as well, lot of channel/routing dropouts after prolonged use.
Kazrog
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I had a chance to play around with Ocean Way Drums last year in a studio with a drummer with V-Drums and it is a great sounding library. However, it's terrible with V-Drums, tracks very poorly in a realtime context - that is, in 2008 anyway. Perhaps they've released a patch to fix that, but we ended up using EZDrummer for the session, because it worked infinitely better in terms of tracking the nuances of the drummer. It also mapped to the V-Drums' native MIDI assignments much more intelligently.
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I remember you posting something about that a while ago.
For this group buy at least, Mike (Squids) from Sonic Reality is working on a new implementation of the V-Drum side of the program. He mentions it in the thread over at KVR and another at one of the V-Drum forums. also from what I've read, alot of the V-Drum issues seem to have been worked out and many people are using them successfully now.
For this group buy at least, Mike (Squids) from Sonic Reality is working on a new implementation of the V-Drum side of the program. He mentions it in the thread over at KVR and another at one of the V-Drum forums. also from what I've read, alot of the V-Drum issues seem to have been worked out and many people are using them successfully now.
I've often read that vintage analog stuff is really high-maintenance, but why exactly is that? Is it all really that prone to breaking all the time? I mean, it's not like there are any moving parts in most of these things (besides the vU needles), right?
And yeah, those pics are far beyond anything that I thought existed in this world to be honest(in terms of sheer scale)
one thing to take into account is that in studios like that, they leave the gear on ALL the time...and after years and years and years of having current pass through shit, components start to wear out
even if it's one little thing here and there, it still amounts to a lot of upkeep when that much gear is involved. hell a lot of studios will have beautiful analog consoles and walls full of outboard that are completely non-op sometimes!!
well, it actually places more stress on gear to turn it on/off all the time than it does to just leave it on - plus some places(if they're lucky) are booked 24 hrs/day
LeSedna
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I would hate mixing in the first picture shown ! Too many things, too much visual attack, I'd prefer a simple wood piece, a desk, the useful equipment, and done, like in the second picture !
Guys, let's organise a break. Let's pick 100 microphones, they won't even notice !
Guys, let's organise a break. Let's pick 100 microphones, they won't even notice !
C_F_H_13
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I've often read that vintage analog stuff is really high-maintenance, but why exactly is that? Is it all really that prone to breaking all the time? I mean, it's not like there are any moving parts in most of these things (besides the vU needles), right?
And yeah, those pics are far beyond anything that I thought existed in this world to be honest
when something is 20-40 years old, the simplest things start to fuck up. Capacitors dry out, pots get scratchy, transformers die. Especially in a place like oceanway where they are still getting 2000-2500 a day, they HAVE to have everyone in 100% working order. It's the kind of place when if a channel on the console stopped working, their tech would come in right then and switch it with one they had waiting in the shop.
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I love(d) the llok of JJps room there.
shame that it doesnt look that any more; hes moved rooms.
go to http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/studios-hollywood.php and click studio a.
http://mixonline.com/studios/profiles/la-grapevine-december/
shame that it doesnt look that any more; hes moved rooms.
go to http://www.oceanwayrecording.com/studios-hollywood.php and click studio a.
http://mixonline.com/studios/profiles/la-grapevine-december/
