Ok, I'll be Mr. Disrespectful here...

[Barking Pumpkin]

Tore was my favorite guitarist of the guitarists at Prog-Power this year, but he's underused in Conception I think. I like his playing in Ark though.

 

[Ruthven]

That sums it up nicely. I cannot think of a single other metal band that has a groove like they do.

Agreed. I knew very little about Conception's music before the show. I was surprised at how, well, catchy and accessible the music was, and that groove that it had was freaking great. And for someone who had never heard those songs, I found them very enjoyable.

 

[Cardinal Sin]

Arve Heimdal (very original drumming). CONCEPTION RULES

Yep, listen to the Flamenco and Spanish guitars' songs....Arve does all the flamenco rhythms exactly how they are supposed to be...thus, like glen said, also the groove...but the groove in some other tastes too, outside of Metal genre.

 

[Cardinal Sin]

(this is one of the things most of the listeners don't get about Conception). But it's not the technical skills what makes Conception magical. It's the songwriting, and especially the atmosphere of their songs. You can feel something really deep, touching and almost supernatural while listening to them. I can't really describe this feeling with words, but believe me, it's something wonderful. There's no other band out there which sounds like them. And the lyrics... if somebody is able to find a non-english native speaking band with better lyrics, I'll hardly believe it.

Conception is a cult band, and this means they have a great fanbase but also a number of people who just don't get them. But that's the magic of the true geniouses. If everybody would be able to get them, it'd be pretty boring...

CONCEPTION RULES

Those are exactly my thoughts too...Since english is not my first language, it's hard for me to explain these thoughts how i really feel about conception, but here you go...this is the best explanation so far about the feeling conception gives me. Conception's music is not normal...it's like from out of this world.

 

[Cardinal Sin]

i don't know exactly how to explain this, but i hope people will understand what i mean. It's normal when you put a cd (one time, or over and over again) just as a background music while doing something else on the computer, or doing homework or just work. But THIS music (as a background music) won't let you captivate the techniques and things that might be catchy to you if you have paid notice to the music on the first listen (or any listens). Thus saying this, it's easy for people to say, "ah this is boring" after awhile, while doing something else. but for people for example, that play the guitar, try this. Grab your guitar, and play for example "Roll The Fire" together with the song while listening to it. you'll see catchy things popping up faster than you imagine (hopefully). I'm sure many of you wont agree with this, because for most of you, music is supposed to be catchy at any time. but by doing these kind of stuff, i got into the music of conception which is for me so catchy now without playing guitar together with the song. This can also be anything else that's not guitar, but just paying notice to the songs. I for example got into conception so quick because of paying notice to the flamenco music, and different beats and rhythms of Arve Heimdal. And Unbelievably, they made metal and progressive music out of all these rhythms.

my favorite songs are Cry, A Million Gods, and Among the Gods...check those out...

Anyway people, these are just some thoughts, people not getting this or not agreeing don't have to be all extreme with your replies...these are just thoughts!!

 

[Thonolan]

i don't know exactly how to explain this, but i hope people will understand what i mean. It's normal when you put a cd (one time, or over and over again) just as a background music while doing something else on the computer, or doing homework or just work. But THIS music (as a background music) won't let you captivate the techniques and things that might be catchy to you if you have paid notice to the music on the first listen (or any listens). Thus saying this, it's easy for people to say, "ah this is boring" after awhile, while doing something else. but for people for example, that play the guitar, try this. Grab your guitar, and play for example "Roll The Fire" together with the song while listening to it. you'll see catchy things popping up faster than you imagine (hopefully). I'm sure many of you wont agree with this, because for most of you, music is supposed to be catchy at any time. but by doing these kind of stuff, i got into the music of conception which is for me so catchy now without playing guitar together with the song. This can also be anything else that's not guitar, but just paying notice to the songs. I for example got into conception so quick because of paying notice to the flamenco music, and different beats and rhythms of Arve Heimdal. And Unbelievably, they made metal and progressive music out of all these rhythms.

Glad to see I'm not the only one in the world who thinks like me. Well, I know personally some big fans here, but nice to meet other ones in the net.

Another thing I love about Conception is the fact that every album is different from the others, but still sounding typically Conception-ish.

 

[Dolamite S. Biffle]

Granted I really like Conception, but I think Kamelot blows them out of the water. Conception doesnt have one song as good as March of Mephisto \m/ or Arabian Nights \m/ or Center of The Universe \m/.

 

[Thonolan]

Granted I really like Conception, but I think Kamelot blows them out of the water. Conception doesnt have one song as good as March of Mephisto \m/ or Arabian Nights \m/ or Center of The Universe \m/.

That's your opinion... I think the only Kamelot song that reaches "Conception-quality" is "Lunar Sanctum". Kamelot is a very good band but not even by far as special as Conception is, and also way less technical and original (imo).

 

[Cardinal Sin]

That's your opinion... I think the only Kamelot song that reaches "Conception-quality" is "Lunar Sanctum". Kamelot is a very good band but not even by far as special as Conception is, and also way less technical and original (imo).

exactly...i always found Kamelot a way too easy band...easy techniques, many times just power metal...no action. to tell the truth I've always listened to Kamelot just because of Khan, and I like Thom Youngblood's way of taking action on his own as being the only guitar player...that's actually all.

That album Siege Perilous is disturbing of how easy it is...no prog, no technicality etc. Fourth Legacy might be my favorite Kamelot album though.

anyway, yes i know, have to include....IMO. but i think for the people that know what prog really is, i can say these statements can be facts.

 

[Cardinal Sin]

btw, Thonolan...you are Mourning Star on rollthefire.com right?

 

[Thonolan]

btw, Thonolan...you are Mourning Star on rollthefire.com right?

Yeah... are you a member on that forum too?

 

[Cardinal Sin]

yeah, well actually i didn't have to be a memeber, i just post...the name i use on there is Retrospect...

 

[TBJ]

I think average or below average vocalists need to run all over the stage to help distract the audience from paying too much attention to their voice. I mean, how hard can you focus on your vocal lines when your trying not to run into band members, jumping over cords, balancing on monitors, and sticking the mic into the crowd? It's easy to run and scream lyrics.

As a Conception fan, I wouldn't mind seeing Kahn be more active on stage. On the other hand, I just can't see him jumping, running, and screaming to 95% of the Conception catalog. He'd look silly. It's not the way the songs are written and it's not Roy.

So I guess you consider Bruce Dickinson an "average or below average" singer, huh?!:Smug:

 

[FatesFan]

For those that didn't get it.... that's just it. You didn't get it cause it wasn't your thing.... that's the way it goes. No biggie.

Exaclty.....Why does anyone have to explain thier likes of a band or apoligize for using certain words like lengend or what ever on the forum. Get over it.

I am not standing up for Conception here, but just the idea that because you don't like them that others should have to justify to you (woosta) why they like them. I am sure that you like stuff that others don't. I am sure you likes bands that I don't and that's okay. I don't need to know why. Your thread title is correct, this is disrespectful.

I would be less concerned over why others like a cetain band and more concerened over why you are making references to an 11 yr old twat. WTF is that about.

Is it just me?