let's face it: the idea of "innovative" and original in metal is a dead issue. maybe music as a whole, but i dont listen to everything so it's hard to say. but, yes, in metal? come on. how much room is there to be original? everyone rips off someone else and those who dont admit it are lying. metal begins and ends with Sabbath (who were nevertheless inspired by blues). unless someone with more knowledge about music history (NFU) says different, thats what i think.
just tired of the "innovative" theme. yawn.
ps: this isnt directed at you Longinus. i was already gonna bring this up when i read your post.