Overkill - TONIGHT!

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

Rainy day in Montreal but the ray of sunshine is that HW ain't opening up this show :danceboy: Kreator ends the evening.

Not sure about some band called Warbringer though...

 

[eppst1]

Don't know Warbringer? Too bad, I think they are one of the better new wave thrash bands. Be interested to hear what you think about them after seeing them live.

I get to see this show Tuesday, so psyched. Haven't seen Kreator since high school (Extreme Aggression tour).

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

Warbringer turned out to be quite good! Sadly, the lead guitarist told me that their new cd was sold out. Hope to ind it tomorrow.

Overkill were tremendous Finally, after 26 years of wanting to see them live. Deny the Cross, Thanx For Nthing, Gutter, Ironbound and so much more. Seventh Wonder have their work cut out for them.

Kreator were... Ok. Long changeover. They started around 10:50 pm.10 plus minutes of the sound guy tapping the drum kit was fucking irritating. Felt like waiting for Iced Earth at PPIX.

Merch: 4-5 different Overkill Event Shirts. Not sure why someone would want to buy and wear a shirt for a show they didn't go to. Liked the Canadian one but the back had a Fuck You Eh! on the back. Lame. Just like that PD (not typing it out) shirt one bald guy was wearing.

 

[Spiner202]

Warbringer turned out to be quite good! Sadly, the lead guitarist told me that their new cd was sold out. Hope to ind it tomorrow.

I will be really upset if it is sold out today. I don't understand why, but Warbringer doesn't appear to be using Century Media's distribution in Canada. They are only available at one HMV in Canada, and they're $20 (Century Media stuff typically releases at $15). Amazon doesn't have them and they're also expensive there. I was really banking on picking one up tonight.

Glad to hear it was a good show though. I've seen all three bands before; Overkill and Kreator killed it when I saw them, but Warbringer was disappointing.

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

Perhaps there's a limited quantity per show? He did offer the vinyl but 1985 was 28 years ago. I've moved on and am not some millennial hipster grasping at something they missed.

Overkill were at the level of any band I saw in the 80s. Be it Metallica, Y&T, Priest, Maiden, Queensryche etc.

 

[nomisofsiman]

Warbringer to me is really good live, but on disc they're just a bit too much the same for me. Unfortunately due to a doctorn thingy I will most likely me most if not all of Warbringer.

Can't wait for Wednesday though as I've never seen Overkill or Kreator live.

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

Yeah. This new wave of retro thrash/any genre is just a pastiche. So, live it can be a good diversion. But a compete album of trying to recapture a sound that you weren't alive when it was original...

 

[MYSTIC1]

Yeah. This new wave of retro thrash/any genre is just a pastiche. So, live it can be a good diversion. But a compete album of trying to recapture a sound that you weren't alive when it was original...

So does that same theory apply to all of these new stoner/doom bands playing music with a 70's vibe?????

 

[Harvester]

Cool interview with Blitz by Gromen over at Brave Words. He discusses ProgPower USA quite a bit:

http://www.bravewords.com/news/213083

Btw...not trying to Chicago Posse this thread...just didn't want to start a new one while this was blazing.

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

So does that same theory apply to all of these new stoner/doom bands playing music with a 70's vibe?????

You're reading my mail.

 

[MYSTIC1]

You're reading my mail.

Got it!

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

Ah. Drunken Wisdom just popped up in my Overkill playlist. Love to hear that one live.

 

[TENTH DREAMER DECEIVER]

 

[nomisofsiman]

I went to this show last week. Awesome night, and holy hell you guys weren't kidding. Overkill outdid Maiden I think in the merch dept.

 

[PureXul]

Overkill outdid Maiden I think in the merch dept.

Saw the show last night in Anaheim last night, and I thought beforehand that the Maiden comparison might've been an exaggeration. Nope. If anything, you understated it. I didn't bother to count, but they had at least 15 shirts just from glancing at their merch spread. If it helps them make money, more power to 'em, but I can't help but wonder how much they have left over at the end of a tour.

The co-headlining situation was cool, although it left me wanting a bit more from each band, since each only got 70 minutes. In general, I prefer Kreator, but Overkil put on the more energetic and enjoyable performance last night. Tangential to that, I wish Kreator didn't rely so heavily on back-lighting...I've always found it mildly distracting and generally annoying, and last night was no exception.

 

[AeonicSlumber]

It's funny because I saw Finberg make a Facebook post about how he specifically had all these shirts printed and exclaimed they'd sell out entirely before the end of the tour. Did it look like they were going fast?

 

[PureXul]

It's funny because I saw Finberg make a Facebook post about how he specifically had all these shirts printed and exclaimed they'd sell out entirely before the end of the tour. Did it look like they were going fast?

I can't really give an accurate answer, I spent all of about three minutes around the merch - glanced at Overkill's wall of shirts, grabbed a Kreator shirt, then headed into the crowd.

There were definitely more people looking at the Overkill merch (not surprising since there was so much more to look at), but I have to wonder how effectively they can manage inventory. Even if you have a REALLY good idea of what ratio of sizes to order (ie, 10 M, 20L, 20XL, 10XXL just for random numbers) and can optimize that side of the equation, you really have no idea what shirt designs are going to sell best, and a band of Overkill's size printing event-specific shirts for each night of the tour seems both risky and expensive. When Maiden do that, they can count on some online sales after the fact, but is anyone really going to go online in three weeks and order a shirt from Overkill's show in Seattle?

It might end up making financial sense when all is said and done, but from an outsider's perspective it seems like there's a lot of risk in lost profit from both leftover merch as well as running out of popular shirts because you spread your capital too thin across so many SKUs. Maybe they've been re-stocking popular shirts through the tour, but that would also increase cost-per-unit due to smaller and more frequent printing runs, right?

 

[AeonicSlumber]

I totally agree. I've heard of bands getting cocky and overprinting and actually winding up in the red due to being unable to move enough stock by the end of the tour and having a ton of extra shit. It's more common than you think, and it's also more difficult than you think to get to where bands like Motorhead and Misfits are where they are veritable merch stores that have records on the side.

 

[nomisofsiman]

It's funny because I saw Finberg make a Facebook post about how he specifically had all these shirts printed and exclaimed they'd sell out entirely before the end of the tour. Did it look like they were going fast?

People were buying several Overkill shirts; HOWEVER, a lot of the extra shirts were location specific left over from previous dates. Needless to say, I think they're going to end up with a lot of extras. Hopefully they can make it up in online sales but as much as I loved the variety, it was a bit overkill (pun intended).

 

[PromisedLand]

I totally agree. I've heard of bands getting cocky and overprinting and actually winding up in the red due to being unable to move enough stock by the end of the tour and having a ton of extra shit. It's more common than you think

Yeah.. Blackguard is still selling 2011 tour shirts because their last manager made some poor buying decisions..