From now on i'll give you a detailed essay on how every band you like sucks and why everyone should avoid listening to them.I'm just glad that for once you didn't attack me and try to call me a troll for posting about not liking a band that you like, since you post about not liking bands all the time. But unlike you, I actually explain why I don't like bands instead of just saying they suck.
Pantera is almost too easy a target. They're like Opeth in that sense: they're so obviously awful and their fans so blatantly stupid that it borders on mere bullying to point it out.
I will now attempt to go into detail on the kind of failure this band represents, attracts, and communicates with....
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Pantera really is one of those "gateway" metal bands. If you never move deeper into metal you are going to find them [brutal] forever. If you do move deeper into metal they do get dull and boring on the whole.
I actually do think they're terrible, and every single person that I've ever seen with a Pantera shirt is a total redneck. They definitely aren't the worst band I've ever heard, but I can't see any redeeming qualities in their music.
You both obviously miss the point of this band (as well as its genre, most likely), and you fail to specify anything about them which makes them (or Opeth) bad.
With posts like this I wonder if anyone on the board at all has any room ever calling anyone pompous and et al.
OK, how about the attitude that comes off the band and their frontman 99% of the time pisses me off by reminding me exactly of so many tough-guy stoner idiots I've known and I have no tolerance for the behavior or mindset? Maybe I dislike "absurd drunken aggression" and want to put people's faces into the wall whenever I'm confronted with it? Maybe I already see enough blatant stupidity in normal people and am tired of seeing it pushed in bands like this and many of their fans? Maybe I'm tired of that stuff not being a simple benchmark among many in metal, but a flagship? How's that?
How about the fact that I find even their better riffs to be less-mediocre chug at best and chug doesn't interest me in the slightest? Maybe the guitar tone irritates me, just as it does in Symphony X? Maybe I don't get too much into any of the 'southern' swagger and groove influence that is present in a lot of their material? Maybe Phil's vocals annoy me to no end?
Maybe 99% of every little thing about the band and their lyrics and music irritate me?
How is it me missing the point or 'not knowing what it's about'? I'm 23. I heard everything up to and including 'Trendkill' when I was 13. I got over it and never looked back. That's 10 years. I still dislike it. It doesn't help that they spawned hordes which are even worse.
I could write a book, please don't make me, just sort of accept that SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE REAL REASONS FOR LIKING *OR* DISLIKING THINGS. Why does it bother you and others? You already have tons of other fans to congregate with, you don't need me. Wtf?
Okay, but I would say the attitude of a band is mostly irrelevant to their musical quality. I could just as soon call a lot of black metal bands bad because their attitude of misanthropy and anti-Christianity is retarded, but then I would be missing the point of black metal, wouldn't I?