Petition for a Collaboration between Slate and Toontrack
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Matt-Steele
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I totally agree with everything you said. It's useless to me since I have SSD Platinum, and I was really disappointed with the sounds in S2 especially the kicks and snares. To me, I would never go back to Superior after using Stevens kits, the only way is if Steven's samples were in S2.
drew_drummer
Dancefap
I think the Slate box-artwork is a bit tasteless. I'm sure it sounds alright though; mixed with other drum products. I can't see me using them solely on their own.
rlcramer
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This really could be an amazing thing for Mr. Slate and for Toontrack I think.
Think about it - release the Slate EX kits as an EZDrummer EZX, and release the full Slate Platinum set as an SDX for S2. The guys who don't have the cash for S2 can get their little subset of Slate-y goodness for EZD, and the S2 guys can get the whole shebang. And we can ALL rid ourselves of NI and Kontakt! That sounds like a Win-Win-Win to me!
It almost sounds foolish for these guys NOT to do, don't you think?
Bobby
Think about it - release the Slate EX kits as an EZDrummer EZX, and release the full Slate Platinum set as an SDX for S2. The guys who don't have the cash for S2 can get their little subset of Slate-y goodness for EZD, and the S2 guys can get the whole shebang. And we can ALL rid ourselves of NI and Kontakt! That sounds like a Win-Win-Win to me!
It almost sounds foolish for these guys NOT to do, don't you think?
Bobby
JeffTD
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I don't see how you can honestly say this unless you haven't heard the A/B comparisons we did with Slate and S2.0 in the other threads. You really haven't played with S2.0 enough, is my guess.
ElektricEyez
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This would be a cool thing. But since it is not yet a reality, has anyone considered just bouncing your drum tracks to audio files, then using Aptrigga, or Drumagogg to just sample replace them afterwords?
Matt-Steele
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I've heard them, and S2 isn't to my liking. I'm not a drummer, and I struggled to death trying to get S2 sounding great like Splatt88/Matt has. I spent weeks with S2 and only got more and more discouraged. I just got to the point where I gave up. SSD on the other hand gives me great sounding samples without any of all that fuss. It's a lot simpler for me and in my opinion, there is no comparison for me. Great sounding drum sound can be had from both, no doubt but SSD is for me.
joeritson
queenslander
I think that's the point, S2 is seriously unprocessed so you don't have a recording with brilliant drums and shitty guitar/vox haha. It allows your drums to match your skill in mixing other instruments.
joeritson
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GarethSE
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JeffTD
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If you think it sounds great in his productions but couldn't get it to work for you, doesn't that mean it's user-error, not a problem with the product?
What your post basically says is that you don't know how to mix drums, so you like the easier, pre-processed route that Slate gives you. That's a way different statement than "I'm disappointed in how S2.0" sounds."
Don't take this post as criticism, I just don't want other people reading it and going "aw shit you know s2.0 probably sucks like that guy said," when that is definitely not the case.
slayercannibalsuffohead
Get a dog up ya!
S2.0 arrived today along with metal foundry, installing all products as we speak. Purchased it online at Toontrack, 4 days later it is here in Oz, at my doorstep, that blew me away. A big +1 to the Toontrack crew. Fucked around with the downloaded lite version and loved the NY kit straight away, much better than EZ drummer. 
GarethSE
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Brady k
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fucking right , i hope they do it,!! i am a huge fan of both SSD and Toontrack !! i would buy it immediately !!
Ermz
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Just used SD2.0 with the stock samples on a recent project and it more than did the trick. Since the samples are less processed than the Slates you have more room to move and tweak them to your liking. It doesn't instantly give you 'that sound'.
I want them SD2.0 room mics in my pants immediately though.
Machinated
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The stock s2.0 sounds are more processed than a few guys on here are letting on though.....
That said, much less than slates and still leaves you plenty to change if you want.
That said, much less than slates and still leaves you plenty to change if you want.
Matt-Steele
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Oh, I totally agree with you, and if anyone took it as if I was saying S2 sucked, that wasn't my aim. For me and my purposes, I prefer SSD. That's all. Anyone who wants to craft the sounds of each individual drum and control every aspect of the room mic, S2 is a great and probably only choice. I own S2 and I don't plan on getting rid of it. Maybe someday my mixing skills will improve to the point where I'll want to return to it, but for now SSD is fine for me. Does that clear everything up?
I'll even share a quick clip I did with S2 It's in the vein of melodic Opeth... Let me know what you think of the drum sound...
http://www.matt-steele.com/downloads/Matt_Steele_OPETH_melodic_test_sonnox.mp3
sounds like a good idea to me too. and then on SDX&Slate pack will be written: "Inspired by Sneapers."
