Poetry

Øjeblikket;6198961 said:
I think a lot of bands found influence in Poe's work. Arcturus set Poe's poem Alone to music, as you may know.

I personally would prefer it if you and others would not shy from posting SMALL poems here, rather than just naming authors you like, so please, post us something to numb over! How about something by Howl?

Please, though, I beg of you, do not post anything by Cradle Of Filth.

I thinks she was referring to the poem 'Howl' by Allen Ginsberg, posted earlier in the thread.

Harold Bloom castigates Poe, claiming that the French took him far more seriously than he deserved ('never has a poet benefited so much in translation') and Emerson dismisses him as 'the jingle man,' but I have always found his better stories immensely interesting. 'The Man of the Crowd,' in particular, gives an early account of the homelessness of the 'flaneur' (the idle wandering poet who would ramble the Parisian streets and aestheticise the crowds) of people like Baudelaire, Breton, Barnes and Benjamin. Side note: I must admit, we could do with resurrecting the 'flaneur' - they would 'troll' modern society by taking their pet tortoises for a walk along a busy high street or railway platform as a protest against the unthinking, impersonal haste of the metropolis :lol: . The Communists of the time considered them layabouts and would run with sledgehammers trying to smash their tortoises :cry: boo.
 
I wont reply with quote or it will make pages to scroll down, but I thought Howl was great, thought provoking.On a slightly different note I like Keats also Wordsworth, and also if you look at some of the poets work from that era or even look a little at Edgar Allen Poe can you not see some eerie likeness in some lyrics from bands such as Cradle Of Filth?

I too love Keats and Wordworth, though the latter wrote much that is mediocre, which tends to dilute his great work if you read a complete edition. Keats died too young. It has often been noted that at 25 he showed more promise than Milton at a similar age. I think Prozak once wrote that in Keats you have the energy of youth tempered with a wisdom and awareness of mortality usually reserved for old age. Everytime I read what exists of 'The Fall of Hyperion' the sheer weight of character, the massive scale, the indescribable age of the gods impresses me as surpassing almost any other portrayal of divinity in verse.
 
I thinks she was referring to the poem 'Howl' by Allen Ginsberg, posted earlier in the thread.

Harold Bloom castigates Poe, claiming that the French took him far more seriously than he deserved ('never has a poet benefited so much in translation') and Emerson dismisses him as 'the jingle man,' but I have always found his better stories immensely interesting. 'The Man of the Crowd,' in particular, gives an early account of the homelessness of the 'flaneur' (the idle wandering poet who would ramble the Parisian streets and aestheticise the crowds) of people like Baudelaire Breton, Barnes and Benjamin. Side note: I must admit, we could do with resurrecting the 'flaneur' - they would 'troll' modern society by taking their pet tortoises for a walk along a busy high street or railway platform as a protest against the unthinking, impersonal haste of the metropolis :lol: . The Communists of the time considered them layabouts and would run with sledgehammers trying to smash their tortoises :cry: boo.

I've always found Poe's strength to be as a prose writer - his poetry was just dreadful in that 9th grade notebook kind of way.
 
Here are a few of my own:

First Derivative

A tangent line
drawn parallel to our lives
splitting us in parts
Apprehension awaits
while lamentations
draw us closer
to the death
we called our love

Privileged Conversation

Privileged conversation
leads to drunk ambivalence
All the while I contemplate
your ulterior motive
on why your actions
don't dictate your words

One Last Wish

Premonitions take over
as you twist in fear
'Trust Me' is your mantra
as you stab me in the back
and leave me to die
Screaming in agony
for someone to hold me

Set in Stone

These cryptic writings
You set in stone
Help seal your fate
This pocket watch relationship
ticks away
As I drink to forget about
All the lies you told
and all the things that might have been

Casual Fridays

Business casual remedies
bleed their patterned colors
as I wait for lunch

These cost analyses
cannot wait to be collated
but I grab a cup of coffee
 
Øjeblikket;6198961 said:
I think a lot of bands found influence in Poe's work. Arcturus set Poe's poem Alone to music, as you may know.

I personally would prefer it if you and others would not shy from posting SMALL poems here, rather than just naming authors you like, so please, post us something to numb over! How about something by Howl?

Please, though, I beg of you, do not post anything by Cradle Of Filth.

Yes Howl was the name of the piece posted a page or two back, and please dont worry I shall not be posting anything by C o F, I was just remarking on the similarity:)
 
Footprints
Also Known As "I Had a Dream"

One night I dreamed a dream.
I was walking along the beach with my Lord. Across the dark sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene, I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand, one belonging to me and one to my Lord.

When the last scene of my life shot before me I looked back at the footprints in the sand. There was only one set of footprints. I realized that this was at the lowest and saddest times of my life. This always bothered me and I questioned the Lord about my dilemma.

"Lord, You told me when I decided to follow You, You would walk and talk with me all the way. But I'm aware that during the most troublesome times of my life there is only one set of footprints. I just don't understand why, when I need You most, You leave me."

He whispered, "My precious child, I love you and will never leave you, never, ever, during your trials and testings. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."
I'm not a religious person, but I love this:)
 
Here is the first section of Allen Ginsberg's postmodern classic (oxymoronic, no?) 'Howl'

Actually, I love Ginsberg with a passion but my favorites of his are probably "America" and "Supermarket in California."

Overall though, I'm surprised nobody's mentioned T.S. Eliot's "Hollow Men":

" MISTAH KURTZ -- HE DEAD.
A penny for the Old Guy

I

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom
Remember us--if at all--not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II

Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer--

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III

This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
and avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of the tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V

Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow
Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
and the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
For Thine is the Kingdom

For thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."
 
I'm going to betray my own suggestion of keeping the poems small by posting something lengthy. It's heavy on the rhyme, but that's Gorey for you.


The Insect God

O what has become of Millicent Frastley?
Is there any hope that she's still alive?
Why haven't they found her? It's rather ghastly
To think that the child was not yet five.

The dear little thing was last seen playing
Along by herself at the edge of the park;
There was no one with her to keep her from straying
Away in the shadows and oncoming dark.

Before she could do so, a silent and glittering
Black motor drew up where she sat nibbling grass;
From within came a nearly inaudible twittering,
A tiny green face peered out through the glass.

She was ready to flee, when the figure beckoned;
An arm with two elbows held out a tin
Full of cinnamon balls; she paused; a second
Reached out as she took one, and lifted her in.

The nurse was discovered collapsed in some shrubbery,
But her reappearance was not much use;
Her eyes were askew, he extremities rubbery,
Her clothing was stained with a brownish juice.

She was questioned in hopes of her answers revealing
What had happened; she merely repeatedly said
'I hear them walking about on the ceiling'.
She had gone irretrievably out of her head.

O feelings of horror, resentment, and pity
For things, which so seldom turn out for the best;
The car, unobserved, sped away from the city
As the last of the light died out in the west.

The Frastleys grew sick with apprehension,
Which a heavy tea only served to increase;
Though they felt it was scarcely genteel to mention
The loss of their child, they called in the police.

Through unvisited hamlets the car went creeping,
With its head lamps unlit and its curtains drawn;
Those natives who happened not to be sleeping
Heard it pass, and lay awake until dawn.

The police with their torches and notebooks descended
On the haunts of the underworld, looking for clues;
In spite of their praiseworthy efforts, they ended
With nothing at all in the way of news.

The car, after hours and hours of travel,
Arrived at a gate in an endless wall;
It rolled up a drive and stopped on the gravel
At the foot of a vast and crumbling hall.

As the night wore away, hope started to languish
And soon was replaced by all manner of fears;
The family twisted their fingers in anguish,
Or got them all damp from the flow of their tears.

They removed the child to the ball-room, whose hangings
And mirrors were streaked with a luminous slime;
They leapt through the air with buzzings and twangings
To work themselves up to a ritual crime.

They stunned her, and stripped off her garments, and lastly
They stuffed her inside a kind of a pod;
And then it was that Millicent Frastley
Was sacrificed to The Insect God.

-- Edward Gorey
 
Wallace Stevens' Sunday Morning:

1
Complacencies of the peignoir, and late
Coffee and oranges in a sunny chair,
And the green freedom of a cockatoo
Upon a rug mingle to dissipate
The holy hush of ancient sacrifice.
She dreams a little, and she feels the dark
Encroachment of that old catastrophe,
As a calm darkens among water-lights.
The pungent oranges and bright, green wings
Seem things in some procession of the dead,
Winding across wide water, without sound.
The day is like wide water, without sound.
Stilled for the passing of her dreaming feet
Over the seas, to silent Palestine,
Dominion of the blood and sepulchre.

2
Why should she give her bounty to the dead?
What is divinity if it can come
Only in silent shadows and in dreams?
Shall she not find in comforts of the sun,
In pungent fruit and bright green wings, or else
In any balm or beauty of the earth,
Things to be cherished like the thought of heaven?
Divinity must live within herself:
Passions of rain, or moods in falling snow;
Grievings in loneliness, or unsubdued
Elations when the forest blooms; gusty
Emotions on wet roads on autumn nights;
All pleasures and all pains, remembering
The bough of summer and the winter branch.
These are the measure destined for her soul.

3
Jove in the clouds had his inhuman birth.
No mother suckled him, no sweet land gave
Large-mannered motions to his mythy mind.
He moved among us, as a muttering king,
Magnificent, would move among his hinds,
Until our blood, commingling, virginal,
With heaven, brought such requital to desire
The very hinds discerned it, in a star.
Shall our blood fail? Or shall it come to be
The blood of paradise? And shall the earth
Seem all of paradise that we shall know?
The sky will be much friendlier then than now,
A part of labor and a part of pain,
And next in glory to enduring love,
Not this dividing and indifferent blue.

4
She says, "I am content when wakened birds,
Before they fly, test the reality
Of misty fields, by their sweet questionings;
But when the birds are gone, and their warm fields
Return no more, where, then, is paradise?"
There is not any haunt of prophecy,
Nor any old chimera of the grave,
Neither the golden underground, nor isle
Melodious, where spirits gat them home,
Nor visionary south, nor cloudy palm
Remote on heaven's hill, that has endured
As April's green endures; or will endure
Like her remembrance of awakened birds,
Or her desire for June and evening, tipped
By the consummation of the swallow's wings.

5
She says, "But in contentment I still feel
The need of some imperishable bliss."
Death is the mother of beauty; hence from her,
Alone, shall come fulfillment to our dreams
And our desires. Although she strews the leaves
Of sure obliteration on our paths,
The path sick sorrow took, the many paths
Where triumph rang its brassy phrase, or love
Whispered a little out of tenderness,
She makes the willow shiver in the sun
For maidens who were wont to sit and gaze
Upon the grass, relinquished to their feet.
She causes boys to pile new plums and pears
On disregarded plate. The maidens taste
And stray impassioned in the littering leaves.

6
Is there no change of death in paradise?
Does ripe fruit never fall? Or do the boughs
Hang always heavy in that perfect sky,
Unchanging, yet so like our perishing earth,
With rivers like our own that seek for seas
They never find, the same receding shores
That never touch with inarticulate pang?
Why set pear upon those river-banks
Or spice the shores with odors of the plum?
Alas, that they should wear our colors there,
The silken weavings of our afternoons,
And pick the strings of our insipid lutes!
Death is the mother of beauty, mystical,
Within whose burning bosom we devise
Our earthly mothers waiting, sleeplessly.

7
Supple and turbulent, a ring of men
Shall chant in orgy on a summer morn
Their boisterous devotion to the sun,
Not as a god, but as a god might be,
Naked among them, like a savage source.
Their chant shall be a chant of paradise,
Out of their blood, returning to the sky;
And in their chant shall enter, voice by voice,
The windy lake wherein their lord delights,
The trees, like serafin, and echoing hills,
That choir among themselves long afterward.
They shall know well the heavenly fellowship
Of men that perish and of summer morn.
And whence they came and whither they shall go
The dew upon their feel shall manifest.

8
She hears, upon that water without sound,
A voice that cries, "The tomb in Palestine
Is not the porch of spirits lingering.
It is the grave of Jesus, where he lay."
We live in an old chaos of the sun,
Or old dependency of day and night,
Or island solitude, unsponsored, free,
Of that wide water, inescapable.
Deer walk upon our mountains, and the quail
Whistle about us their spontaneous cries;
Sweet berries ripen in the wilderness;
And, in the isolation of the sky,
At evening, casual flocks of pigeons make
Ambiguous undulations as they sink,
Downward to darkness, on extended wings.
 
Crow's Fall


When Crow was white he decided the sun was too white.
He decided it glared much too whitely.
He decided to attack it and defeat it.

He got his strength up flush and in full glitter.
He clawed and fluffed his rage up.
He aimed his beak direct at the sun's centre.

He laughed himself to the centre of himself

And attacked.

At his battle cry trees grew suddenly old,
Shadows flattened.

But the sun brightened—
It brightened, and Crow returned charred black.

He opened his mouth but what came out was charred black.

"Up there," he managed,
"Where white is black and black is white, I won."

Ted Hughes
 
Not so bad, but if you remove the formatting, it's just a micro-story in parable format, albeit a useful one.
 
Sonnet 129
William Shakespeare

The expense of spirit in a waste of shame
Is lust in action; and till action, lust
Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust,
Enjoy'd no sooner but despised straight,
Past reason hunted, and no sooner had
Past reason hated, as a swallow'd bait
On purpose laid to make the taker mad;
Mad in pursuit and in possession so;
Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme;
A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
Before, a joy proposed; behind, a dream.
All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.
 
somewhere i have never travelled, gladly beyond
by e. e. cummings

somewhere i have never travelled, gladly beyond
any experience,your eyes have their silence:
in your most frail gesture are things which enclose me,
or which i cannot touch because they are too near

your slightest look will easily unclose me
though i have closed myself as fingers,
you open always petal by petal myself as Spring opens
(touching skilfully,mysteriously)her first rose

or if your wish be to close me, i and
my life will shut very beautifully, suddenly,
as when the heart of this flower imagines
the snow carefully everywhere descending;
nothing which we are to perceive in this world equals
the power of your intense fragility: whose texture
compels me with the color of its countries,
rendering death and forever with each breathing

(i do not know what it is about you that closes
and opens;only something in me understands
the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses)
nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands