Question for Mike about guitar tuning on the new record
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opeth_353
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Strangely.. I'm actually interested in knowing too.
It'd be awesome for him to try out another weird tuning.. Or at least.. Unconventional tuning.. Maybe 'New standard Tuning' or whatever it is. Something that allows some nice, innovative guitar playing and riffing. I definitely hope there's less chug riffing. If i were to decide, i'd want Opeth to head off into a really fucking mental, avant-garde direction. But hey..
It'd be awesome for him to try out another weird tuning.. Or at least.. Unconventional tuning.. Maybe 'New standard Tuning' or whatever it is. Something that allows some nice, innovative guitar playing and riffing. I definitely hope there's less chug riffing. If i were to decide, i'd want Opeth to head off into a really fucking mental, avant-garde direction. But hey..
Carta's
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Standart tuning FTW. You can do prettymuch anything, i just don't get altered tunings, you can do the same things with a standard tuning but changing fingering. Of course, your tone will be 1 or 2 step downtuned, but I don't think that's an issue. I trust Mike to be able to write amazing riffs on E standard as he has been doing all this time.
I don't think Ghost of Perdition would have worked in standard E. How about you? All of Ghost Reveries was in open D (Major? I believe?). Several songs across MAYH-BWP were in drop D. I don't get how Mike has been writing amazing riffs in E standard "as he's been doing all this time" with those counterexamples.
rrjii2000
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Carta's
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What I'm trying to say is that those riff could have been written on E standard, only a step higher. I can play Ghost Of Perdition on E standard, if rearranged so that D is an E. I mean, i can play it in E standard, not open E as it should be
Blind Guardian
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i never got what is special about a certain tuning, i mean, the relativety between the notes is still going to be the same anyway
You could say the same thing about time signatures. You can do just about anything you want in 4/4, but people sometimes use other time sigs. It just what the artist feels like it needs.
wankerness
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All but three songs (beneath the mire, hours of wealth and atonement, though the latter doesn't really have enough guitar to be sure) are in DADFAE actually. And no, several riffs from it just plain could not have been played in standard tuning unless they completely butchered the sound of it by sticking multiple notes on one string in order when they were supposed to be let rung, to say nothing of the notes that are lower than standard tuning allows for. The guy who's like "wtf you can play anything in standard by switching fingering" obviously doesn't play guitar at much of any level.
Carta's
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Well, I tried to be as reasonable as I could, so no wtf! Anyway, yeah, you're right, in open D you can let ring chords you couldn't on standard E/D. My bad. I just got owned.
(Even though I still think E standard is the perfect tuning)
fizz6207
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The perfect tuning is the one that allows you to play the notes in the song. I dont get why people get hungup over which one is best.
actually its different..although he could play everything maybe up a whole step but the fingerings would be different since some of the strings aren't changed. it brings about exotic sounds from his normal playing......its more about new ideas i imagine....
....and everything cant really be written in 4/4 time because time signatures are a creation to categorizes the tune based on where the beat normally falls...if the beat falls every four beats then yes...but if the beat falls every seven beats then it is most likely not in 4/4
wankerness
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Yeah, it's awesome alright, that drop D half step down. It was used to great effect on most of the songs on Linkin Park's first album, as well as all of Disturbed's cds.
GTFO
You have to think about songwriting aswell. You write different when you use different tunings. It sounds different, the fingerings are different. Other tunings makes you come up with different shit than E standard. I welcome any tuning. I've been playing in cgcgce lately ala Devin townsend amongst others. Great fun.
Yeah, it's awesome alright, that drop D half step down. It was used to great effect on most of the songs on Linkin Park's first album, as well as all of Disturbed's cds.
GTFO
Yeah, I think Dredg use that tuning as well, though I may be wrong...
L0bster
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xDetonatorx
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For all I care, they could write and record the album in drop B, It's the playing that counts. unconventional tunings are nice because they give a player a different set of notes to work with, and a different way to voice chords and runs. We can thank nu-metal for making your average dumbshit metal fan think that anything other than A440 is blasphemy. Truth is, Opeth is amazing because of their tasteful phrasing and the unique progressions they use.
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