rare prog from early 70s

[Rocky Raccoon]

Here is a cool website on Prog (mainly 60's and 70's)

http://www.progressiverock.com/timeline.asp?sYear=1967

Also what do you guys reckon are the best albums by Gentle Giant, King Crimson & Caravan?

..And is there any other top quality prog bands (apart from Camel, Rush & Yes) that are worth checking out?

Cheers
Rob

 

[arzachel]

GG - Octopus, The Power and the Glory
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King, Red
Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink, If I could do it all over again I'd do it all over you

 

[the_3_toed_sloth]

There are many top quality prog bands worth checking out. Prog is a very varied genre, so it really depends what sort of prog you're after. NFU is always willing to give advice, and can direct you much better than anyone else.

ps. More or less agreed with Arzachel.

 

[Mr. Josey Wales]

blind dog at st. dunstans is the best Caravan album

everyone overlooks it cuz i think sinclair? left the band before it was cut

the violas, moog, and guitar solos are just classic

the song 'chiefs and indians' is my favorite caravan song

gentle giants power and the glory is awesome

i only have itcotck for King Crimson, it is great. 21sst century is a classic

 

[NFU]

blind dog at st. dunstans is the best Caravan album

everyone overlooks it cuz i think sinclair? left the band before it was cut

the violas, moog, and guitar solos are just classic

the song 'chiefs and indians' is my favorite caravan song

gentle giants power and the glory is awesome

i only have itcotck for King Crimson, it is great. 21sst century is a classic

blind dog has tons of holes in it. but yes, it also is missing sinclair....sinclair IS caravan.

 

[Mr. Josey Wales]

i will cling to blind dog at st. dunstans till my death.

criminally overlooked and underrated.

what holes?

 

[Mr. Josey Wales]

Pye Hastings IS Caravan

 

[NFU]

Pye Hastings IS Caravan

i guess you know better than me and all. my mistake.

 

[Mr. Josey Wales]

so sad to see so many deceived...

 

[Seance]

hey NFU, some 40+ pages earlier in the thread, you made a post about Linda Perhacs, and how Mike, Peter, and S. Wilson are all thanked in her CD booklet, did you ever receive that email back from whoever you emailed? I've read a very large chunk of this thread and didn't see a follow-up post, but it's of course possible that I overlooked it

 

[NFU]

the truth is, sinclair was just as important as hastings was in the beginning. he did happen to live...hastings didnt, so that leads many to beleive hastings had seniority. now i guess thats understandable, but the band has never been as good as on that first handful of records which was the classic lineup. truth be known, David Sinclair is actually the shining star of that band. Nine Feet Underground wouldnt have ever been written if he hadnt used some pieces he had stored away and fuzed them all together to compose that track. As well as his signature and undeniably pleasing keyboard work on the rest of the material.

 

[Dreadful]

I've bought Rush - Caress of Steel and Uriah Heep - Demons and Wizards! both rule.
aside from Rush, it's been awhile since I bought a progressive album...I should catch up on Caravan and Nektar...I've had the same CDs the past 2 years.

 

[Jon Snow]

Uriah Heep - Magician's Birthday is must own as well.

 

[NFU]

bump.



this forum is in fucking shambles.

 

[Progthing]

Great thread! I searched the thread and I don’t think that Spanish prog has been mentioned yet. There’s a lot of good stuff from Spain, mainly from the late 70s, and here’s some of my favourites:

Atila – Reviure. Great spacey symphonic prog. Four long tracks, few vocals.

Mezquita – Recuerdos de mi Tierra. Very energetic, superb guitar/keys interplay with pronounced Spanish & North African influences.

Triana – Triana (aka El Patio)/ Hijos del Agobio – ‘Flamenco-prog’ popular in Spain at the time, basically flamenco rock with a strong symphonic flavour.

Granada - Hablo de una Tierra/ España año 75/Valle del Pas. Similar to Triana, but more sophisticated and adventurous.

Crack - Si Todo Hiciera Crack. Great symph prog in the vein of the classic Italian bands.

Gotic – Escenes. Great jazzy instrumental symph prog, often compared to Camel's ‘Snow Goose’.

Grupo NHU – s/t. Fat keys, acid guitar and great instrumental interplay.

Iceberg – Sentiments/Coses Nostres. Superb symphonic fusion.

Itoiz – s/t. From the Basque region of Spain, symphonic prog with a folk flavour.

Medina Azahara - Paseando por la Mezquita/La Esquina del Viento. More symphonic flamenco-prog, but with more aggressive guitar than usual.

 

[NFU]

both aquila and carmen were mentioned previously, both are spanish.

 

[Abhorsen]

hmm, time to kick things about I guess. Ok then, how about we talk about neo-prog, by which I mean the first wave of bands that appeared in the early 1980's and the second wave which came along in the 1990's. Classic prog was pretty much dead and buried as bands looked to a more commercial sound in the wake of punk, disco and then new wave. Yes did a club mix of Leave it for fucks sake! Anyhow in the midst of this dry spell of classic prog there were clearly some young dudes who had spent years listening to Peter Gabriel-era Genesis and hence the arrival of Marillion, IQ, and Pallas, just to name 3. At the time I was intrigued by Marillion and went to see the band on their Misplaced Childhood tour, but came away feeling that they might as well be a tribute band once removed from the likes of The Musical Box, long before their time. IQ sounded even more like classic Genesis and still do. Marillion not so much after Fish left in 1989. I recently listened to a 2004 Marillion album called Marbles, with Steve Hogarth handling the voice duties. I must say this is a pretty good listen and it sounds nothing like Fish-era Marillion, IQ or any other near copy-cat band. It's mature rock with some prog tendencies such as the 17-minute Ocean Cloud. Fans of Porcupine Tree's later output would probably like this record. Other neo-prog bands came along in the nineties and were generally much better in the originality department, bands like Anglagard (no anekdoten don't qualify in the nineties) and Landberk clearly had seventies-era tendencies, but the total sound was their own. Some love Spock's Beard as a unique Amercian prog band, Glass Hammer too in that camp. Any on this board love/hate any of these bands? FWIW, I've a friend back home who used to own a pretty cool record shop in the San Francisco Bay Area who is old enough to have seen Close to the Edge, the Lamb, and Dark Side live the first time through and he jizzes for IQ and claims that I am missing the boat on them. They are a very good band, but I can't get past the neo-Gabriel stamp for the most part as it gets old too quick. Discuss if you are so inclined.

 

[Abhorsen]

quick add before heading off, neo-prog bands I loathe: pallas, arena, magellan, enchant = shite that should be quickly flushed.

guilty pleasure of the neo-lot: pendragon. twee, but I love them even though the keys player is also in arena.

 

[NFU]

marillion is a funny band to me. i actually dont see them as pure genesis tribute of sorts...although the worship is VERY obvious in most respects. the thing that bothers me though, is the lack of technicality and creativity in their music. genesis wouldnt go 2 minutes without taking the song a completely different direction...and it seems like marillion almost didnt have a problem at all sticking with basically 1 theme for about 6 minutes at a time...not to mention theres always a LOT less going on in a Marillion song than most prog bands have for some reason...its like Rush without the excitement or drive. anyway...that all being said, ive never liked much of the 80s progressive movement...although Ozric Tentacles had some material i enjoyed from time to time, yada yada.

 

[affinityband]

Marillion suck balls. I went to see them and it was a marathon 4 hour show. What a load of shite.