Rason Rullo Drum Setup
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WeepingMoon
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oh okay, thanks guys 
i'll remember that. It's a great technique, i knew that that existed, but i didn't know the proper name for it. My respect for Rullo just went up since he can accomplish doing something like that on drums.
i'll remember that. It's a great technique, i knew that that existed, but i didn't know the proper name for it. My respect for Rullo just went up since he can accomplish doing something like that on drums.
Tubbs
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Anonymous
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The first time I heard the term polyrythm I thought it was like some sort of rythmic keyboard effect that wasn't all bweeeeeeeeeep like sawtooth or square lead.
urinalcakemix
man who plays drum
Jasons Setup, Is a Pearl Masters Maple, Im gonna guess 6 ply maple
Sizes will be something like:
8x8
10x9
12x10
14x14ft
16x16ft
20x18bd.
Cymbals: hes a Sabian Endorsee- looks like AAX Crashes, the chinas look like thier from the HAND HAMMERED line, look like DARK chinas to me.
Sizes will be something like:
8x8
10x9
12x10
14x14ft
16x16ft
20x18bd.
Cymbals: hes a Sabian Endorsee- looks like AAX Crashes, the chinas look like thier from the HAND HAMMERED line, look like DARK chinas to me.
_Gentleman of_the Snow_
Prog' Drummer
Communion is a great example for polyrhythms within the music as a whole. For polyrhythms within the drums themselves, I'll give you a few examples to check out:
As mentioned earlier, Eyes of Medusa has a ton of polyrhythmic beats - 0:36-0:53 has a snare and high-hat playing in a 4/4 type of sound (for the groove), and a repeating bass drum pattern that is in a 3/4 type of time sig-Very interesting. Later on, 1:06, for the verse, same theory behind it, but this time, the bass drum is doing a pattern that sounds like a 5/4 time sig, starting on the up-beat... I think. This is pretty vicious
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(1:14-1:18 notice the awesome bass drum trickery - love it)
Accolade II - 1:19-1:30. This illustrates the bass and snare doing a pattern in 5/8, and a high-hat playing straight 1/4 notes.
Edge of Forever - 0:45-1:01. This is close to the same type of technique. Bass and snare creating mainly a 7/8 pattern, with a few alterations, and again, ride cymbal playing 1/4 notes.
Rediscovery, part.II - 5:31-5:44, a pretty complex beat in 6/4 - 5/4 alterations, loaded with awesome high-hat goodness, and then at 5:45, he introduces a steady 1/2 note ride over the existing beat. Simply amazing...
As mentioned earlier, Eyes of Medusa has a ton of polyrhythmic beats - 0:36-0:53 has a snare and high-hat playing in a 4/4 type of sound (for the groove), and a repeating bass drum pattern that is in a 3/4 type of time sig-Very interesting. Later on, 1:06, for the verse, same theory behind it, but this time, the bass drum is doing a pattern that sounds like a 5/4 time sig, starting on the up-beat... I think. This is pretty vicious
.(1:14-1:18 notice the awesome bass drum trickery - love it)
Accolade II - 1:19-1:30. This illustrates the bass and snare doing a pattern in 5/8, and a high-hat playing straight 1/4 notes.
Edge of Forever - 0:45-1:01. This is close to the same type of technique. Bass and snare creating mainly a 7/8 pattern, with a few alterations, and again, ride cymbal playing 1/4 notes.
Rediscovery, part.II - 5:31-5:44, a pretty complex beat in 6/4 - 5/4 alterations, loaded with awesome high-hat goodness, and then at 5:45, he introduces a steady 1/2 note ride over the existing beat. Simply amazing...
_Gentleman of_the Snow_
Prog' Drummer
Ptah Khnemu said:
Portnoy uses a LOT of the same type of fills. I love the guy, and he's an awesome/solid player, but Rullo has him beaten in fills and beats-creativity-wise, and technicality-wise, hands down (IMO)
Anonymous
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The Yngster
Member
i think what makes portnoy seem so amazing is that his timing is perfect, he's one of the tightest drummers out there, his sound is AMAZING, and he plays hard. I think with a more solid drum sound rason would stand out just as much
J-Dubya 777
It NEVER ends
Does evry thread have to have some mention of DT or a DT member?
I thought we were over that????
J-Dubya
I thought we were over that????
J-Dubya
WeepingMoon
Member
J-Dubya 777 said:
yeah it doomed from the start since Mike_Portnoy started the thread even.:zombie:
If you want good examples of polyrythms, I´ve got on word.. Meshuggah!
Might not be your kind of music, but they´re tru masters at this kind of stuff.
Just listen to anything of Chaosphere.
Might not be your kind of music, but they´re tru masters at this kind of stuff.
Just listen to anything of Chaosphere.
greenaxer
Knight of the Templar
I love Mike Portnoy's drum sound (his bass drum always sounds so punchy, as heard on Images and Words and 6 Degrees...). But one thing that has admittedly bothered me about him is that he tends to go way overboard with the fills. Yes, he's undoubtedly a master at those, but there is something to be said about moderation. Just a little wouldn't hurt. It just comes off as pretentious when done after every few measures. You begin to think, "ok, I know you can do those already!"
But I think Jason Rullo finds the perfect balance of keeping the basic rhythm and throwing in fills at the right spots to stay interesting. I always thought Neil Peart was good at this, too. And yes, Jason can stand toe to toe with Portnoy.
But I think Jason Rullo finds the perfect balance of keeping the basic rhythm and throwing in fills at the right spots to stay interesting. I always thought Neil Peart was good at this, too. And yes, Jason can stand toe to toe with Portnoy.
Anonymous
L'Étranger
Well, Neil Peart is the undisputed drum god. And yeah, Portnoy is pretentious and Rullo is just plain awesome. My favorite drummers always tend to have the perfect balance between showing off and never going over-the-top, like Neil Peart, Jason Rullo and Nicko McBrain.
greenaxer
Knight of the Templar
Nicko McBrain, yeah, he's another good example of those drummers who know how to keep the flash within bounds. I think Alex Van Halen can do it too. Hmm, I don't know about you guys, but having Van Halen back in the picture would be pretty nice. But that's just a nice dream 
Time-Machinist
AstroChilde
As one of my friends said, Nicko McBrain makes the twin-like bass parts in songs -mostly on Brave New World, e.g. Dream Of Mirrors- with single cross 
. He says to have seen it on Rock in Rio concert video. You have any idea on this? (I know, that is not an impossible move, esp for jazz drummers; however McBrain seem to have some hidden talent )
Edit: And oh sorry Micko McBrain
. He says to have seen it on Rock in Rio concert video. You have any idea on this? (I know, that is not an impossible move, esp for jazz drummers; however McBrain seem to have some hidden talent )Edit: And oh sorry Micko McBrain
Anonymous
L'Étranger
Yeah I heard about that too, and it's all true.Time-Machinist said:As one of my friends said, Nicko McBrain makes the twin-like bass parts in songs -mostly on Brave New World, e.g. Dream Of Mirrors- with single cross
Wiki: "Strangely, unlike most heavy metal drummers, McBrain has refused to use a double bass drum, since he considers it to be "too complicated", and "un-drummerish". Instead, he has developed an incredibly fast technique on the single bass drum, following Steve Harris' gallops with no problem whatsoever. The first (and last) song Nicko McBrain recorded using a double bass drum was "Face in the Sand," on the Dance of Death album, 2003. As Nicko could not grasp the technique of the double bass pedal, the track ended up being pro tooled. One of his feet was going faster than the other. He subsequently announced publicly that it had been one of the hardest things he had ever had to play and that, for that reason, the number would not be included in the track list of the Dance of Death World Tour."
thanks, urinalcakemix for your reply.
could you tell me something about his older kit with the brady drums and so on? do you also know something about his former cymbals?
i'm sorry for chosing this name, i won't use it anymore in other threads.
there are more than 25 replies and only 3 or so care about the topic.
could you tell me something about his older kit with the brady drums and so on? do you also know something about his former cymbals?
i'm sorry for chosing this name, i won't use it anymore in other threads.
there are more than 25 replies and only 3 or so care about the topic.
