Remixing old songs... + need help with vocals

[Ola Englund]

I'm currently remixing old Feared songs for the sake of releasing a greatest hits cd
Using old DI's is working pretty good and it's really nice to hear that I can get a totally different sound out of it all just through reamping and some changes with the drum software.

Here is the old one from 2007:
http://www.feared.se/audio/Feared - One two three WAR - 38.mp3



And here is the new one, reamped with Savage and using some different samples
http://www.feared.se/audio/UNFINISHED/38-2010.mp3


Also I would like to get some help with mixing metal vocals. I've not really looked into it that much since I always think you can get a long way just making the instruments sound good in the mix. Share your best reverb tips

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Could you upload the raw tracks (or the stems + raw vocals) in order to try it out and give you the best options? (And for learning's sake )
I'd just say loads of compression and stereo delay.

 

[Ola Englund]

Could you upload the raw tracks (or the stems + raw vocals) in order to try it out and give you the best options? (And for learning's sake )
I'd just say loads of compression and stereo delay.

Thanks dude here are the raw vox and backing track:

http://www.feared.se/audio/UNFINISHED/vox.wav
http://www.feared.se/audio/UNFINISHED/backing.wav

The vocals are recorded with a SM57 and sounds horrible raw

 

[Erik Monsonis]

The vocal tracks have a ton of reverb on them! Don't you have pure raw tracks?

 

[ScootBaloo]

Comparing the 2007 and 2010 versions it sounds like a different song.
I feel that the vocals should be distorted or processed ( filtered ? ) in some way.

 

[Ola Englund]

The vocal tracks have a ton of reverb on them! Don't you have pure raw tracks?

DOH, give me 5 min.

EDIT: Uploaded! same link as above

 

[HollowmanPL]

i think this song is very good but try to mix this vox in a diffrent way
I don't know...
Vocalist is very similar to Rob Flynn...
but first...try with less reverb

 

[Nuno Filipe]

Here it´s a sample of my attempt.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/feared.mp3

 

[Ola Englund]

Here it´s a sample of my attempt.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/feared.mp3

sounds good Nuno! What did you do eq-wise?

 

[Mago]

heres mine
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3961577/Ola_Vox_1.mp3

 

[Nuno Filipe]

sounds good Nuno! What did you do eq-wise?

Thanks. I am gonna put here some pics of what I did.

Track 1 --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox.JPG
Track 2 --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox1.JPG, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox2.JPG
Group Tracks --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox3.JPG

That tape compression that you see on the pics is doing also some eq. It´s pulling some high end of the track.

 

[Plankis]

Here's mine:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/933491/Goddamn vocals!.mp3

Was a lot of fun mixing it. He sounds really angry on those takes.

 

[Ola Englund]

Thanks. I am gonna put here some pics of what I did.

Track 1 --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox.JPG
Track 2 --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox1.JPG, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox2.JPG
Group Tracks --» http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1457645/vox3.JPG

That tape compression that you see on the pics is doing also some eq. It´s pulling some high end of the track.

Thanks Nuno, that's awesome of you to share...

 

[Nuno Filipe]

No problem dude. I am always glad to help.

 

[Ermz]

I've found with dull SM57 vocal tracks you can get a lot of mileage out of the Waves RVox. Very easy to use and if you take off a fair amount of dBs you will find the vocal immediately gets more in your face. Beyond that I would recommend fast, fet-style compression like an 1176 plug-in. I'm fortunate to own a real 1176 Rev A which is just amazing on vox.

Saturation is a huge one on vox too. I've used everything from bootsy's Tessla plug-ins to izotope trash on the 'tape' settings to the SPL TwinTube and SoundToys Decapitator. It really all depends on what the vocal needs. But in metal the keys are usually good doses of saturation (bordering on distortion) and compression. All this combines to annihilate transients and get it right up in your face.

Beyond that it's just tailoring the vocal to the track using minor EQ.