Reverb send or insert?

[Sean in Silence]

Just curious as to what most of you guys on here do and why you do it?
Are there any benefits to sending your "want to be verb'd" to another with reverb on it?
haha
Or is it just fine to place the reverb on the fx insert of your track?

 

[Pxz]

On snares i usually use sends because i like to control the amount or reverb with the fader and leaving the verb setting as it is and 100% wet. Im curious on this subject aswell .

 

[AudioGeekZine]

never inserts here.
Delays can be either

 

[ahjteam]

never inserts here.

Not even cabsims? They are reverbs too you know

 

[if6was9]

Always sends for my verbs, way more control that way and its great for giving a recording that verbs sound rather than a mash of different verbs on everything.
I wouldn't consider a cab impulse a verb- does it being an impulse technically make it a verb? Just because the technology used is the same? i'm not so sure?

 

[Sean in Silence]

Hmmmmmmm
I definitely need to try sending to verbs
All of my mixes have been on the inserts
but then again
I've never been completely satisfied with the way my verbs sit:/

 

[colonel kurtz]

always on a send...mainly so that i can EQ the reverb separately from the source

also, although a cab impulse would technically qualify as a reverb, you couldn't really use it on an aux send, since you don't want to hear any of the DI signal in the mix...at least not typically

 

[ahjteam]

I wouldn't consider a cab impulse a verb- does it being an impulse technically make it a verb? Just because the technology used is the same? i'm not so sure?

Not just technically, it IS a short convolution reverb.

 

[Sean in Silence]

always on a send...mainly so that i can EQ the reverb separately from the source

How do you typically eq your reverb and why?
I think I read on here somewhere about someone lowpassing their reverb track to make it sound more realistic?
I don't remember where that post was or how low they had the pass though:/
and highpassing the reverb is definitely a given

 

[ahjteam]

I think I read on here somewhere about someone lowpassing their reverb track to make it sound more realistic?

Nope, the reverberation in a concrete room definately still has a lot of the hi-mids and treble. Lowpassing the reverb usually just makes it sound better. I usually also use a very harsh de-esser on the vocal reverb-bus before the actual reverb because otherwise it usually goes bananas otherwise and clutters up the actual vocals too much.

 

[xMannequiNx]

if you use it as a send you can bus each track you want reverb on and send different amounts to the verb bus. I think it sounds more realistic if you have one verb bus that all the sends go to so its not like each instrument is in its own room. And then you can easily mix the verb track. Moderate compression works really well at making it sound more realistic, but I don't know about eq.

 

[Sean in Silence]

What's the typical amount of compression you use?
ratio, attack, release?
and what frequency do you guys lowpass at?

I'm not trying to be a "setting" goblin
hahahaha
just curious as to what works and why it works
I'm gonna experiment with my own eq and compression tomorrow

 

[ahjteam]

and what frequency do you guys lowpass at?

Depends on the inputted signal and reverb. Usually 2-6k

 

[AudioGeekZine]

Not even cabsims? They are reverbs too you know

I wouldn't define it as such.:Smug:
but yes I do put TL Space on a DI track for cab impulses. 100% wet of course.
If it were a regular reverb impulse it would be more like 15-25% wet.

same tool, different technique, different use.

 

[beyond dead]

I like to automate volume on reverb/delay aux channel to make vocals come alive at certain times

 

[xMannequiNx]

What's the typical amount of compression you use?
ratio, attack, release?

I learned how to use bus effects when I first started through this tut and in there it explains compression on buses. The results I got from first using this tut were amazing! I used protools instead of logic, but used basically the same thing (TL space instead of Space deisgner, C1 comp instead of logic's comp, etc). Tweak to desired sound...

 

[Sean in Silence]

Thanks for the link dude
I'll check that out tomorrow after school!

 

[beyond dead]

cool man thanks for sharing!

 

[if6was9]

Nope, the reverberation in a concrete room definately still has a lot of the hi-mids and treble. Lowpassing the reverb usually just makes it sound better. I usually also use a very harsh de-esser on the vocal reverb-bus before the actual reverb because otherwise it usually goes bananas otherwise and clutters up the actual vocals too much.

Sweet tip there with the de- esser, I never thought of that and its been driving me crazy over the last few projects

 

[greyskull]

sends