RIP Celtic Frost

Apr 24, 2002
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I'm so fucking bummed right now...


<<Former CELTIC FROST frontman Tom Gabriel Fischer has posted the following message on his official blog:

"It was not my departure from CELTIC FROST which caused the group's inexorable demise. It was the group's inexorable demise which caused my departure.

"CELTIC FROST's approach was unlike any other I have encountered in my many years in the music industry. Regardless of whether one revered or detested CELTIC FROST, this was a deeply unique group. And while there were unquestionably some who did detest CELTIC FROST, it seemed impossible for them to manifest any criticism beyond petty personal attacks or preposterous conjecture typically rooted in their own distorted perception rather than in the group's actual reality. In fact, this might also be true for some of us within the group itself.

"In its second incarnation, CELTIC FROST was far more unassailable than in its first. It could only be destroyed from within. And this, we accomplished to perfection.

"Leaving the project which was the focus of most of my existence, the group that was the content of my life, was not a decision I took hastily or lightly. On the contrary, it was, and still is, extremely difficult and almost unbearably painful. My departure was a consequence of the personal environment prevailing within the group for some five years, and particularly since CELTIC FROST stepped back into the limelight in May 2006. I would not have taken this step if there had been a glimpse of another option. But there wasn't; the damage incurred had finally become irreversible.

"For the past seven and a half years, CELTIC FROST was for the second time synonymous with my life, my energy, my passion, my vision, and my creativity. So much so, that I was frequently berated by those around me for the intensity of my identification with the band. But CELTIC FROST was, of course, not just art and creativity — it was also an assemblage of very distinctive and extremely volatile human characters. This was the group's very propellant and, ultimately, its ruin. The thought that this great, extraordinary band no longer exists, that it had to disintegrate due to what in effect constituted human complacency, is utterly insufferable.

"It is also completely unbefitting the unique legacy of CELTIC FROST.

"It has become simply impossible to reply to the uncounted phone calls and mails I have received since the news of my departure broke. To learn that CELTIC FROST has come to mean so much to so many is extremely moving. At the same time, it is also dreadful to know how disappointed all those are who loved the band. This also includes our friends and mentors, some of whom tried to intervene together with me until the last minute (and, in some cases, past it) to prevent the worst from happening. Carmen and HR Giger, for example, Ravn of 1349, or the group's brilliant manager, Antje Lange.

"Moreover, it is nearly impossible to justify the course of events in the face of those who worked so hard to enable the disinterment and second rise of CELTIC FROST: our live guitarists V Santura and Anders Odden, our webmasters, our crew, and the staff of our concert agency, Twisted Talent, and of our record company partners, Century Media.

"I am attempting to collect my thoughts right now, which is still incredibly difficult. Artistically, I did not want to leave CELTIC FROST at all; I have never been happier with the music and creativity in the band. I saw 'Monotheist' as only the first of hopefully several distinctive albums by this group. I thus plan on continuing exactly in the artistic vein of CELTIC FROST. I had very a distinct vision of what the next two CELTIC FROST albums might consist of, and I intend to eventually fulfill this vision and complete these albums with a new group. I would also like to continue touring and perform the music I have written in CELTIC FROST over the years for audiences all across the globe.

"In closing, at long last, I am also deeply indebted to my friend Wrath of AVERSE SEFIRA for his forceful epitaph in honor of CELTIC FROST, which stands representatively for the many comments I have received.">>
 
Here is the good news Paul:

'I had very a distinct vision of what the next two CELTIC FROST albums might consist of, and I intend to eventually fulfill this vision and complete these albums with a new group. I would also like to continue touring and perform the music I have written in CELTIC FROST over the years for audiences all across the globe.'

:)
 
It's cool to see Tom is going to continue playing and writing......but for me it won't be the same without Martin Eric Ain. I felt that the combination of he and Tom on "Monotheist" was particularly powerful and wanted to see/hear more of that. Oh well.

Now I do hear rumblings about VOIVOD possibly playing some shows, how they plan to do that without Denis (PIGGY) I have no idea, but at least that is something for me to look forward to.

I'm so glad I got to see CF twice on that last tour!
 
Now I do hear rumblings about VOIVOD possibly playing some shows, how they plan to do that without Denis (PIGGY) I have no idea, but at least that is something for me to look forward to.

I heard a rumor a while back that Dave Grohl supposedly wanted in on that action.....................:erk:

Granted, I assume he is somewhat genuine in this liking of VOIVOD, though it would turn into something other than it should be.

Furthermore, when he first joined Nirvana, Grohl always talked about how he grew up in the punk scene, so who knows...
 
It's cool to see Tom is going to continue playing and writing......but for me it won't be the same without Martin Eric Ain. I felt that the combination of he and Tom on "Monotheist" was particularly powerful and wanted to see/hear more of that. Oh well.

Why not wait and see how it works out?
 
I heard a little of it and really didn't like it. I thought it was too much like so much stuff I've already heard and it was pretty boring. I'm sorry for you guyses' loss anyway. :)
 
I heard a rumor a while back that Dave Grohl supposedly wanted in on that action.....................:erk:

As much as I love Foo Fighters, we've seen what happens when Dave tries to play metal with Probot. :erk:

Voivod can call themselves whatever they want, they'll never be Voivod again. Time to call it quits.
 
As much as I love Foo Fighters, we've seen what happens when Dave tries to play metal with Probot. :erk:

Voivod can call themselves whatever they want, they'll never be Voivod again. Time to call it quits.

Voivod have stated that once they release their next album, that will be the end. Going out to do a farewell tour with someone filling in on guitar I think is a great thing. Of course it's not the same without Denis, but it's not like there's another option since the guy is dead. I would go see a tribute band doing Voivod songs, and I would go see any of the Voivod guys perform in their new bands, so why wouldn't I go see them with a replacement guitarist as long as it was done honestly and not just "for the cash"? Not like Voivod were ever the kind of band who made a lot of cash to begin with, anyhow.

I don't think Grohl would be a suitable guitarist for Voivod, he doesn't have those kinds of chops. Someone like Daniel from MARTYR would be perfect. Their rendition of "Brain Scan" (with BLACKY on bass no less) is excellent and shows that he's got the talent to properly learn and execute those guitar parts. Andreas Kisser, while a decent guitarist, I am not totally certain would perform those parts accurately. But who knows, I could be wrong about that.

I like Grohl, and the Foo Fighters, and I thought Probot overall was rather excellent, with only a few clunkers. I don't fault him for things he said and did when he was younger....many of us did shit like that when we were younger. When I was 20 I wasn't exactly espousing the virtues of the R.E.M and Duran Duran cds I had in my collection, haha! I had to uphold my "metal image" and all that, until I got a bit older and realised that was stupid, and stopped caring about what fans or peers thought of my musical tastes. So Dave being very "pro" punk while keeping his metal influences mum back then doesn't really offend or shock me.

Regarding the "wait and see" factor for Tom Fischer's new stuff.....well of course I haven't closed my mind to it. If it's good, it's good. But I can't deny my disappointment if his future ventures aren't done in conjunction with Martin Ain. But I'm certainly interested to see what Tom does next, regardless.
 
When I was 20 I wasn't exactly espousing the virtues of the R.E.M and Duran Duran cds I had in my collection, haha! I had to uphold my "metal image" and all that, until I got a bit older and realised that was stupid, and stopped caring about what fans or peers thought of my musical tastes. So Dave being very "pro" punk while keeping his metal influences mum back then doesn't really offend or shock me.

That's a valid point.....
I am sure when I was 20, I wasn't 100% honest about every album in my collection either.... (IE - only a select few knew of my excessive collection of Morrissey 12" singles...)
 
True dat, true dat!

I'm 20 years old! Can you believe that? I'll be dead before I reach 25. You guys are so lucky.... you didn't have to live through nuclear holocaust and Real ID when you were 20. :lol:
 
That's a valid point.....
I am sure when I was 20, I wasn't 100% honest about every album in my collection either.... (IE - only a select few knew of my excessive collection of Morrissey 12" singles...)

Do you still have that Morrissey collection, and do you have all those b-sides and stuff on cd now? If so, I'd very much like a copy of them. I think The Smiths/Morrissey are fuckin' ace.

Oh and I'm not ragging on 20 year olds. I'm just saying that many people tend to have a different outlook on things at that age than when you're my age, certain things that "mattered" more back then don't mean the same now and vice versa. It happens.