Rolling Stone - 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time

By reading through the "Top 100 of People who where close enough to a Guitar to be considerer GREAT PEOPLE but actually leaving out most great Guitarists or dropping the GOOD ones so low that they snort dirt"-List again, I asked myself..

62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes

WHO the FUCK are those Morons?!
 
Yogota said:
By reading through the "Top 100 of People who where close enough to a Guitar to be considerer GREAT PEOPLE but actually leaving out most great Guitarists or dropping the GOOD ones so low that they snort dirt"-List again, I asked myself..

62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes

WHO the FUCK are those Morons?!
Vernon Reid and Steve Howe own your pathetic ass. Most of that list is a fucking godawful joke though.
 
BastrdDrmr (in his sig) said:
Arch Enemy and Evergrey are the only two bands from Sweden still worth a shit.
But don't forget Skyfire, they kick ass too don't they?
And where's Michael Schenker on the list?
Oh well, it sux donkey dick....Cobain better than Rhoads :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
THIS IS A HUGE JOKE!!! the guy from white stripes number 17 or something. ooooooooohohohohohohohohohohoh. I see, its intended to be funny isnt it? You cant take that list seriously!
 
Sorry to bring back such an old thread, but ijust found this at the JCFonline website, Zakk Wylde didn't make that list as you all may know, and he had a couple of things to say about it.

http://www.sleazegrinder.com/jeffzakkwylde.htm

"Things are about to get a little wylde. Here’s the dust up: when a recognized rock magazine doles out a perennial best of list, it’s done so for a couple of reasons. First, rock critics will take any chance they can to let you know how much smarter they are then you. And second, it’s wonderful space filler (for those times when the rock world isn’t offering up enough play and all the important teenagers have run out of their 15 minutes). Seems simple enough. But when you are Rolling Stone, the most recognized rock magazine in the world, and your perennial list just happens to be The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time, you better make sure you don’t drop the ball because this is more than just space filler, this is some heavy shit, and your reputation is on the line. Oops. Did you hear that? Somebody just dropped the ball. And by the sounds of it, they dropped it hard.

You see, they gone and done pissed off Zakk Wylde. Big fucking mistake. Never mind their contemporaries, who were bound to find issue with the list no matter what, and never mind the readers because they probably believe everything the magazine tells them anyway. No, they’re not the concern. It seems someone close to Wylde was wicked enough to show him the list. All I had to do was light the fuse. When you want the thickest, choicest cut of beef, you go to the butcher. When you want the tightest, finest piece of ass, you go to the head cheerleader. And when you want a real, cursed-laden, death-threatening, rottweiler-off-the-chain opinion on The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list, you go to the man who will give you just that. And, coincidentally, he happens to be one of the greatest guitarists of all time. Or that’s what some people think, anyway. Rolling Stone sees it differently, considering Wylde didn’t even make their list. And that’s what makes his opinion all the more special.

It’s not his exclusion from the list that upsets the New Jersey born hell raiser, who, since the age of 19, has been Ozzy Osbourne’s right hand man and currently fronts the behemoth metal juggernaut, Black Label Society. It’s the exclusion of certain nameable guitar gods and the placement of certain others, most notably Wylde’s heroes, Eddie Van Halen and Randy Rhoads, who find placements at numbers 70 and 85, respectively, that really grinds his organ.

“Put it this way,” begins Wylde, his down-home, beer-soaked growl of a voice thundering through his massive beard, “when Eddie Van Halen is number 70 and Randy Rhoads is number 85, I mean, bottom line is I have to play Randy Rhoads’ shit every night. I idolize Randy Rhoads. I still got posters of Randy Rhoads in my garage right now, in my weight room. I carry them on the bus. I love Randy Rhoads to death man, so I mean, the whole thing is just like, I’ve got to play Randy’s shit every night. Last time I checked, Joan Jett can’t play fucking Mr. Crowley, you know what I’m saying?”

Joan Jett checks in at number 87, just behind Van Halen and Rhoads (a little too close for Wylde’s comfort), yet ahead of some exceptional players who join Wylde on the outside looking in.

“You’ve got to laugh at the thing,” Wylde continues. “I mean, Joe Satriani isn’t in there. Steve Vai isn’t in there. Yngwie Malmsteen isn’t in that fucking list. Slash isn’t in there. They are some of the sickest guitar players that have ever walked this planet. I mean, I’m a guitar player. Do you know how good fucking Yngwie is? It’s beyond fucking sick. The fact that Yngwie isn’t in it is just fucking mind-boggling to me. People can say what they want about Yngwie, but it’s just like naming the 10 greatest singers of all time and not putting Pavarotti in it, you know what I’m saying? Yngwie is a virtuoso.”

So where and when did things go wrong? If a best of list is doomed to fail it is because of a lack or criteria, its limits bound only by its arbitrary nature. But in this case, it all hangs on one word: greatest. Not coolest, not most inspirational, not most influential, but greatest. Which makes entries like Jack White of the White Stripes at number 17 and Kurt Cobain at number 12 so terribly wrong.

“I mean, I dig the White Stripes, I think they’re fucking cool as fuck, I mean they’ve got balls from hell, you know what I’m saying?” says Wylde. “Even Kurt Cobain. I dig Kurt. Great songwriter. Great voice. Great records. But I mean, it’s just like, he’s above Eddie Van Halen? Jack White, what, this is his second fucking album? And he’s number 17?”

The list gave top honors to the eminent Jimi Hendrix, another of Wylde’s idols (he even named one of his sons Hendrix), and while it’s impossible to downplay Hendrix’s contribution to the guitar, Wylde believes Hendrix’s number one status is a slight miscue.
“Obviously Jimmy Hendrix is going to be the patron son of guitar, like Babe Ruth. No matter who hits more home runs than The Babe, The Babe is going to be, you know, The Babe. But the thing is, Jimi Hendrix couldn’t play Spanish Fly or Eruption. Technically. I’m telling you. Flat out. Just couldn’t do it. Jimi got a bunch of gear that nobody ever had before, you know what I am saying? So, he was able to do it before anyone else, and I understand that, but Eddie brought it to a whole other level technically.”

With Hendrix technically disqualified, Wylde’s choice for the greatest guitarist of all time becomes quite evident.

“As far as I’m concerned, Eddie Van Halen should be number one. And then Randy Rhoads would have to be in the top three or top five. He’d have to be.”

But enough about best of lists, and who should and should not have been included, because there’s a deeper issue here. If Rolling Stone’s The 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time list makes any kind of statement at all, it’s that the once mighty ruler of rock politic, the grand daddy of pop culture, which helped define an entire generation by going against it, by speaking for it, has lost its edge and, more importantly, its voice. Wylde agrees, laying it out in terms perhaps easier to understand.

“You’ve got to understand, the only thing Rolling Stone magazine is good for is when you take a good-ass shit and you wipe your ass with it. You’ve got a bunch of yuppie-ass, hack, wannabe musicians that never made it and they’re working for a punk-ass, shit, scumbag magazine. Their pulse on what the fuck is cool is fucking pathetic. Eddie Van Halen is number 70? Everyone that works at that magazine is like your yuppie, dad, old, fucking cunt-ass motherfucker that you’d like to smash in the fucking face. Randy Rhoads 85? That’s fucking pathetic, man. It just goes to show you that nobody at that fucking magazine knows what the fuck is going on. I’d just like to go down to the building and burn it down, you know what I mean? Just for shits and giggles.”

He draws his curses out nice and slow, extra emphasis placed on the nastiness. But Wylde’s nastiness can be construed as nothing more than misplaced passion for his craft. He watches as things like best of lists and scumbag media, or the industry and its counterfeit praise, bastardize the craft he worships, studies, and perfects. And if someone ever does wake up and decides to recognize rock’s true soldiers, Wylde will be the first to turn it down.

“If I ever get an award, you know who’s going to accept it?” he asks rhetorically. “The fucking New York City chapter of the Hells Angels are going to roll on up in their fucking motorcycles, take the fucking thing, smash it, roll over it a couple of times, and just fucking laugh their balls off and piss on the fucking thing, then just leave.”

Unfortunately, such a grandiose scene never played itself out at the 36th Annual Grammy Awards in 1993 when Wylde received a Grammy with Ozzy for the song I Don’t Want To Change The World in the Best Metal Performance With Vocal category. Wylde doesn’t know what he ever did with that award, nor does he care. He doesn’t even hang his platinum records in his house.

“I don’t give a fuck about any of that shit because that ain’t the reason I play,” admits Wylde. “It’s all phony and fake and fucking bullshit anyway. I mean the only reason why they voted for Ozzy is because that was the only name they knew, you know what I’m saying? They never heard the fucking song. It’s just like Jethro Tull beating Metallica. The guys that are voting for this thing have no clue. They’re so out of touch it’s a fucking joke.”

Wylde did receive one accolade recently that he graciously accepted. Rolling Stone may not have thought much of Wylde’s accomplishments to include him in their list, but on October 18 the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame inducted Wylde’s first guitar. This was a different kind of recognition for Wylde, one that gave him the chance to honor his parents, who bought him his first guitar as a high school graduation present, and to do something meaningful in the name of guitar playing.

“Put it this way – my mom would have dug it,” explains Wylde. “But I mean, that’s cool. I said we’re going to give them something. If I’m going to inspire some kid to fucking play, to practice every day, 10 hours a fucking day, I mean, this is the guitar that I sat in my backyard practicing on 10 hours a fucking day, so I said we’ll give that to the Rock N’ Roll Hall of Fame. You know, it’s got to mean something. I mean everything is so fake and fucking phony and fucking pisses me the fuck off man.”

Wylde’s Hall of Fame career has been anything but phony and can be defined with one word: signature. The famed Bull’s Eye guitar; the muted harmonics, whirlwind finger picking, and thick, sour mash crunch; the walk and talk of an angry Viking on a loud Harley. Wylde is the world’s most terrifying renaissance man. Aside from his current band Black Label Society, Wylde also fronted the rhythm and blues-inspired rock band Pride and Glory and released a haunting acoustic solo album, Book of Shadows. He has been linked with professional wrestling and major league baseball, being a huge fan of both, and even appeared in the film Rock Star. He is a devoted husband and father.

But perhaps the feather in his cap Wylde is most known for is his signature relationship with friend and mentor, Ozzy Osbourne. Wylde has helped define Ozzy’s sound since 1988 and the two have become inseparable since, building a modern day heavy metal friendship empire.

“I love him to death,” says Wylde. “He’s the godfather to my boy. I idolize him. I thank God every day for putting him into my life.”

Together, the two have traveled from one end of the world to the other, consuming rock n’ roll. But the 54-year-old father of heavy metal has recently fallen ill, postponing the European leg of their tour. Wylde’s list of priorities begins with family and Ozzy is no exception.

“First off, fuck the music,” explains Wylde. “The main thing is to make sure Ozzy is well. That’s first and foremost. Make sure the old man is good and ready to roll, because he’s a fucking warrior. I mean, he works out all the time. The bottom line is that when he gets up on stage he wants to give the fucking best performance he can, so the whole thing is like, we’ll just push it back a little longer, probably like January we’ll go over there and we’ll knock it out. Ozzy’s just like, ‘Give me a little bit of time to fucking recoup.’”

Wylde’s seen it all come and go. And amid the scumbag media and industry bullshit he’ll draw strength from his own experiences, leaving all that is irksome and unworthy in the world of rock n’ roll behind him in a haze of guitar genius and alcohol-fueled brutality.

“One thing I’ve learned from [Ozzy] is that no matter how bad it fucking gets, you have to get back on your fucking feet, you’ve got to be a man, you’ve got to be strong, you’ve got to be a warrior, and you’ve got to roll. End of fucking story.”

-This was fucking written by Jeff Fucking Warren, bitch
 
Someone must have been on some fucked up drugs to put The White fucking Stripes on ANY list that is supposed to be the "TOP" of ANYTHING.
Seriously, Jack White is one of the worst guitarists who ever was in a band signed to a major label, and the girl who drums ... makes whoever drummed on Mayhem's "Deathcrush" album look like a goddamned drum GOD.
 
To me, there is a difference between "Best Of" and "Most Influencial." In a most influencial list, skill and the like wouldn't matter nearly as much; it's basically whoever influenced the most in varied genres. Best, however, you'd have to look at skill, technical ability, etc.

The problem with 'best of' lists is that they are all opinions, too. I mean, to make the 'perfect' best of list with whatever(guitarists, drummers, bassists), you'd have to consult a bunch of musical experts to tell if what they people are doing IS really insane stuff or does it just SOUND impressive, etc...but when it's a bunch of people writing for a magazine; they tend to like to pick the flavor of the week. IMO, I am far from a guitar expert(was much better back in my teenage years before I decided to persue an education), but I'd give Alexi a spot for sure; they guy truly is learned and amazing on his instrument; it's like he's one with it. I can't say that about too many people. One thing I think he has above and beyond some of these guitar virtuosos is that not only can he play his heart out on it; he can compose songs with it. Some of these 'virtuosos' can't write a good tune with their guitars to save their life...he can do both with great skill and that is really saying something. Alexi has that all important ingredient in a great musician(besides raw skill); and that's heart.

I have been kicking around the idea of getting the Metalwhore crew together and making some best of lists(albums, guitarists, drummers, etc) in extreme metal. But, of course opinions will make there way in here; it's what we think are the best in their league. Some may agree, some may disagree but I gotta admit best of lists can be fun sometimes, especially when the writers butt heads a bit. ;) :D
 
I do not see Michael Romeo on there either. Nor do I see Jeff Loomis.

Its just a popularity contest. Ignore it.

Its for people who think Jimmi Hendrix is the only one who can do the american national anthem on guitar. And Yes there are morons I know of that think that.
 
Im sick of this Hendrix shit! Seriously I am. He may be "good" but he has never been number 1 goddammit!!!! theres so many guitarists out there that could play circles around 90% of the people on that list.
 
I actually own that issue of Rolling Stone, I bought it to see if anyone half decent would be on the list, and also because there was a very intriguing article about college porn in the same issue. I read the list to find that it was total and utter bullshit. Kurt Cobain... ahh... 12th best Guitarist? I think not. I used to like Nirvana, but I have now come to realize how much he sucks at guitar. It never fails to amaze me what I used to be into.

The college porn story was interesting, though.
 
they should do a greatest keyboardists list. i bet they wouldnt even put janne on it though cause they're wicked smart.
 
HauknessX said:
they should do a greatest keyboardists list. i bet they wouldnt even put janne on it though cause they're wicked smart.

Well, a keyboardists list probably "wouldn't sell" ... because Rolling Stone markets itself toward those "punk" kids now, who are too "hardcore" for keyboards. :sigh:
 
the thing i have to give wylde is that he hit the fucking nail on the head when it came to hendrix. he had some pretty new toys that noone else had, end of story. as for the list....every list sucks. i came to that conclusion years ago when i kept seeing cobains name pop up everywhere, and now the guy from the whitestripes? a fucking amputee playing with only his tounge could produce a better sound than that fucktard. and joan jett? what the shit?!?!? somebody fucked up BIGTIME in order to stick her sorry ass on the list.........


i knew there was a reason i never read that fuckin shit-rag