running 2 amps live

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Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for how to run 2 amps live? I would ideally like to be able to have, say, an 18ms delay between them and to also have the option of isolating one or the other on the fly.

Second guitarist would be better option but they are very rare where I come from :-(

Is there a device (hopefully cost effective) that will allow me to achieve that?

Thanks :-)
 
No reason to try to emulate a second guitarist live, there is just no point in it. There are a lot of bands that only have one guitarist as long as you have a bassist then you are good, having a keyboardist though is perfect for a single guitarist band. If it was absolutely necessary, I would not have a delay between one of the amps, just use an AB/Y splitter and use a ground lift adapter on one of the amps, either one.
 
yes, many guys that run two amps live delay one amp by a few ms to avoid phasing issues, although i wouldn't say it's necessary.

i'm running an engl fireball and peavey 5150 in stereo for my single guitar band. i'm using an morley a-b-y switcher which is great. only downside is that you might run into ground loop issues. not too much of a problem with the engl as it has a built in noisegate, but kinda sucks for the 5150.
there's a rather cheap device from behringer though that's built to eliminate ground issues (forgot the name)....basically you plug it between the splitter and the amp. works like a charm.
there's also a lehle splitter that handles the ground stuff, but this one is pretty expensive.

sounds crushing btw. especially leads sound wicked. for leads i'm using a boss delay. actually i got the dd7 because of the stereo option, but i've quickly switched to using only one amp with delay and keeping the other one dry all the time. sounds awesome.
as for using two amps in general, i wouldn't say that there's no point in doing so....depends on the material. for straight up death metal or similar you can get by with just one amp, but there's just something about having an amp on both sides of the stage, switching one of them on and off to emulate the effect of having only one guitar play something and the second one kicking in etc. and obviously, if you chose your amps wisely it sounds crushing as fuck.
many people (keep of kalessin and rage for example) run two amps, with one of them using very little gain to really get the note through, and the other one adding thickness and sustain.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Clockwork:
Thanks for that. I am gunna look into it and see if it ticks all the boxes.

amarshism:
Thanks, I'll check it out.

TheWinterSnow:
I hear you. I would probably look at it more like that if was playing more of a prog metal style. Since I'm after a brutal DM tone I want all the firepower I can muster (crappy recording of one of my tunes here - http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=10357233&q=hi) :-)

Harley barley:
OK. I'll have a look and see if elaborates on his setup. I am also following up on a band called Psycroptic. Their guitarist uses 2 amps live...

Fragle:
Thanks heaps for the advice. Yeah, I'd prefer to keep it real with the price - that said, I'll spend the big bucks if I absolutely must

That's interesting about running one amp little gain - have to give that a try.

I thought the two amps would be good - especially if they're different to add some extra beef to the overall mix. I thought the delay might help with the illusion of two different guitars