Yeah um saddam was NOT KILLED NOR WAS HE TRIED BY THE UNITED STATES! He was tried in Iraq guys. I know it's nice to be able to blame America for everything but common you can google that information.
Saddam Hussein is fucking dead.
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No, silly, we do everything good in the world, we're the world's police and we're fighting a war on terrorism and drugs and poverty and hunger and...
*head explodes from sarcasm overuse*
Jeff
*head explodes from sarcasm overuse*
Jeff
kaomao
Member
This is gonna make a fucking great South Park episode.
Yep finally he's in hell with satan having sex ahahhaha
.... seen the south park movie?
"How come you always want to make love to me from behind" buahahhaha
Puppet government or not, all I can say is that if the U.S. were pushing to have him executed [EDIT: AGAINST THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION AND THE COURT SYSTEMS INVOLVED] we'd still be trying to figure out how to spell his fucking name. Our bureaucracy would have taken years to cut through.
Jeff
Jeff
Just curious why you guys would have rather he rot in jail or be returned to power? Don't get me wrong I don't support the death penalty (shocking I know) even for Sadam but I was just curious.
Kazrog
Kazrog, Inc.
One of the problems with America is they expect you to fit into one of the two major political parties, and if you're outside that, you're a freak. For example, I support both abortion and the death penalty, to me they're kind of related - keep the population down, get rid of unnecessary resource drains (AKA humans.) Because of my views, there's no place for me in the American political spectrum, I am a nomad.
As for Saddam, I support whatever the Iraqi court wanted to do with him - even though I do think hangings are somewhat barbaric. Let his people decide - he was given due process. Which is exactly how I feel about GW Bush...
One of the problems with America is they expect you to fit into one of the two major political parties, and if you're outside that, you're a freak. For example, I support both abortion and the death penalty, to me they're kind of related - keep the population down, get rid of unnecessary resource drains (AKA humans.) Because of my views, there's no place for me in the American political spectrum, I am a nomad.
As for Saddam, I support whatever the Iraqi court wanted to do with him - even though I do think hangings are somewhat barbaric. Let his people decide - he was given due process. Which is exactly how I feel about GW Bush...
I can respect that.
I know the feeling - closest thing I can be grouped into right now is free-market anarchist.
I hardly agree, though, with hangings being barbaric - give me one minute to think and I can think of thirty better ways to do it.
Jeff
I hardly agree, though, with hangings being barbaric - give me one minute to think and I can think of thirty better ways to do it.
Jeff
Gnash
Lefty
What's that political party that "Mancow" always votes with (Liberatarian) or some shit? Maybe that's the ticket. I am so sick of politics and the fake fucks who run our country all the way to the local municipal systems. I tried to vote against a local prosector(who give me a bullshit DWI, and there is no one running against him. IT'S ALL FUCKING RIGGED ANYWAY! OK, I'm gonna stop before a couple of black SUVs pull up in my driveway.
kaomao
Member
One of the problems with America is they expect you to fit into one of the two major political parties, and if you're outside that, you're a freak. For example, I support both abortion and the death penalty, to me they're kind of related - keep the population down, get rid of unnecessary resource drains (AKA humans.) Because of my views, there's no place for me in the American political spectrum, I am a nomad.
As for Saddam, I support whatever the Iraqi court wanted to do with him - even though I do think hangings are somewhat barbaric. Let his people decide - he was given due process. Which is exactly how I feel about GW Bush...
You support death penalty and find that hanging someone is barbaric?
Is electric chair barbaric for you?
I don't get it.
Aaron Smith
Envisage Audio
I don't see how this would make any sense.
The only reason Iraq was a stable country while Saddam was in power, was because he ruled with an iron fist and anyone who opposed him was killed for it. He was a dictator. Other than the Sunni Arabs- Saddam's own minority people group whom he favored -the majority of Iraqis did not support Saddam Hussein, as they were forced to endure whatever torture and murder that Saddam wished. In light of that, what sense would it have made to topple Saddam's government (to the joy of the majority of Iraqis), only to then say "Hey Saddam, we're going to put you back in power now, because Iraq is a mess without you". Do you mean, to just put the country back to the exact same way it was originally, and put the millions of newly freed Iraqis back in the same situation? Or are you suggesting that Saddam has some kind of special ability to settle his country, without using dictatorial power and brute force? I cannot think of a single scenario in which putting Saddam back in power would have been for the good of the Iraqi people as a whole.
metalkingdom
the kinder, gentler me
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How do you know that? This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that Americans are extremely arrogant. There have been many, many more "iron fist" regimes in power than elected officials throughout the history of humankind. There are plenty of them still in power today. So should we go topple them too?
The people that you saw being thrown off of rooftops...were you ever given an explanation as to what crimes they committed? NO. We have no fucking clue (other than the one side presented by the U.S. media) what is going down on the other side of the world.
Newly freed? That's the epitome of American arrogance. What is "freedom"? How do we even know that Iraqis will ever comprehend or understand our notion of freedom? Chances are, they will never understand it because they've lived without our "freedom" for 5000 YEARS. I don't think that Americans even understand what freedom is. America is still an experiment. We don't have enough stable history to start enforcing our will and way of life on anyone or anywhere we choose. All you have to do is look at that bullshit "trial" that was given to Saddam. For those who think that it was fair, I'll tell you that there were quite a few human rights organizations present for this farce, and every single one has called it unfair. It's not hard to come to that conclusion seeing as he was 1.) tried by his mortal enemies, 2.) three of his lawyers were murdered during the course, 3.) judges were replaced when they started to lean towards a "not guilty" verdict, and 4.) key evidence supporting Hussein was ignored. So much for democracy in Iraq....
I've never suggested that Saddam be put back in power, but I'll reiterate this FACT - since the U.S. invasion of Iraq, there have been 600,000 Iraqi deaths. Think about that number for a minute...seriously. All the mass graves combined and multiplied several times don't even come close to this number. It'd be one thing if the Iraqis had done this all on their own (a la the French Revolution), but they didn't. We did. Shameful.
So I suggest to you, and anyone else who thinks that this was justified, to go back and read from the link that I posted earlier in this thread. This guy was setup, and used, abused, and put to death by the "Bush regime" in the name of the United States.
And don't forget that President Gerald Ford (R.I.P.) wanted his statement regarding this unjust war released posthumously. That's some major shit to have the world hear your words from the grave.
It's really easy to issue armchair judgements from the protected environment that is the United States. It's also extremely arrogant to think that this is what Iraq needs to become like us...because then you are ignoring the fact that these people are watching their children die by the thousands.
Have you noticed that the Shiites don't like us, either? Maybe we thought that they would since we deposed Saddam, but guess what...?
everybody's x
My name is Damage
Is that supposed to mean that you like government interference with private property and what's left of the free market, the high taxes, more handouts with less accountability... what?
Jeff
uke: at. Sorry I ever brought this up.
LSD-Studio
HCAF crusher
it's very well reported and documented that the current Iraqi govt. tried Saddam and they hanged him.... no us citizen, soldier, or official was on the premises for the hanging. So, it's their mess and i say let them deal with it.
