Sick of Slate

AaronDylan

another diamond recording
Feb 18, 2011
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Hey everyone!
I will be recording the first song of my new band next week!

Was just hangin with my band in the practice room and listening to music we like to get a feeling of what kinda sound we will be going for!

We had a long discussion about the drumsound!

The bassplayer mentioned he likes the Snaresound of the new Emmure record! Wich sounds like pure slate to me(not 100% sure if it is)

I was offended because i definently don´t want to go for a kind of slate sound and told him that there are probably 30 bands on my harddrive that used the same snaresample

So what im requesting is a list of Productions where youre sure about Slate Samples beeing heard!
im just wondering how many we could get together?
this could be fun!!
 
i know lsd drums! what i heard was really impressive!
but i will sample the snare myself!
What imo a good engineer should know how to do!
 
Do whatever you gotta do to keep your client happy and interested that way the'll come to you for more business and they'll REFER more business to you. If they want slate you give them slate.
 
just use whatever you think sounds best for your music. if slate sounds good, use it. if something else sounds good, use it.

the emmure snare sounds good within the context of that mix, so even if you get that exact same sounding snare, it could (probably) not sound as good in the context of your mix.
 
I don't blame you for being sick of it, it's so overused and it just contributes to metal production being even more oversaturated.
 
I'm on the fence with Slate stuff, sometimes it works really really well, other times it sounds so plastic and fake. It definitely has it's place though :)
 
Joey didn't use slate anymore. He uses his own samples nowadays. He even has the Emmure toms for sale.
 
I don't blame you for being sick of it, it's so overused and it just contributes to metal production being even more oversaturated.

seriously what i´m sick of is that you can hear the same snare beeing played on different kinds of records in the same genere!

That´s crazy and imo doesn´t have to do anything with recording skill -- just steven slate´s skills on all of the recordings!

I´m not against using samples i indeed love it! but i always try to create something nobody else could rightaway copy!

Copying Samples allready happend in the 80´s where engineers would wait until a kick or a snare was played solo on the record and they would cut it out too use it for their own!

Or when drummers used to use the alesis D5 triggering system live or in the studio it only had a small amount of samples on it!

And think about it!

Drums are percussive instruments were you just have to sample the hits.
But you could never copy a guitarsound to 100 percent not even with presets or IR´s because it´s always going to sound different!

but using a steven slate sample and just tweaking it is not a major level engineering skill!
 
but using a steven slate sample and just tweaking it is not a major level engineering skill!

I like a guy that ruffles feathers after 40 posts :D

Anyway, yeah, using any sample and just tweaking does involve some sort of skill. Regardless of what you think, it's not just about picking the right samples, it's about making them fit into the mix and context of the song. Joey does this well (from the little I've heard of his production work) and some people do it really bad and never ever make it fit. Some people leave it as obviously Slate whereas people try to make things sound different.

Slate has it's place, but sometimes it's just too plastic for the job at hand.