Check out this amazing picture of the crowd assembled for the Vicious Rumours set. This was sent to me by a friend who was in attendance on day one. Keep in mind they were the headliner for Friday...
There is not thirty people at that set.
So... any first-hand accounts of the Milwaukee Metalfest?
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There is not thirty people at that set.
eppst1
Member
And it looks like most of them are standing with their hands in their pockets.
Just unbelievable!
Just unbelievable!
YtseJammer
Member
http://www.wisbar.org/res/capp/2005/2005ap000539.htm
Contracts would have been much more enjoyable had I read cases like this.
Contracts would have been much more enjoyable had I read cases like this.
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
There were far more people at the old Powermad festivals that had basically ZERO word of mouth outside a few internet sites.
I'm also quite surprised anything this guy promotes hasn't been run into the ground. Let's hope this is the last straw for this unscrupulous bastard. Glenn is the anti-Koshick in every sense of the term.
I'm also quite surprised anything this guy promotes hasn't been run into the ground. Let's hope this is the last straw for this unscrupulous bastard. Glenn is the anti-Koshick in every sense of the term.
Harvester
The Promoter
http://www.smnnews.com/board/showthread.php?t=158657
"OK, many of you have probably begun to hear the stories of what went down at Milwaukee Metalfest over the weekend. I wanted to post something quick, before I do a big full recap. I will be posting in installments, so bear with me. I'm dead tired, flat out exhausted tonight, but I needed to get some stuff of my chest.
As a sponsor, and as a member of a band performing MMF, I can honestly say we were stolen from. Jack Koshick delivered nothing we were promised. When the 3rd stage was closed Saturday, Jack tried to bump us from our slot....the one we earned by taking a bullet for the festival Friday night, so he could have Broken Teeth play a prime slot. I got right in Jack's grill, and told him as an event sponsor, I wasn't budging off that slot. He relented, but he got the last laugh as he had the sound guys pull us after 15 minutes.
Jack Koshick is a scumbag, a liar, and a thief. He steals money from the people who can least afford it, independent bands, and he leaves destruction in his wake. Most of the bands there this weekend pull bigger crowds at their home clubs than the entire MetalFest managed to pull in.
Jack Koshick took the bands' money, and the sponsors' money, promised us all a great fest, and then didn't lift a finger to promote it, to secure headliners, or to even hire real sound people for the stages.
I'm not going to bag on WIPZ (radio station running the sound for the 3rd stage), I have no idea who they are, or what their arrangement with Jack was, but when you show up to a huge MetalFest like that and don't even bring drum microphones, that's just a joke and an embarrassment, and proof positive that Jack Koshick didn't sink a dime into the actual fest. Trying to mic drumkits with spare vocal mics, having to turn monitors around to face the audience just so vocals can be heard....an absolute joke.
As soon as Jack got the chance, he screwed us royal. He's a scumbag, and a criminal.
For those who are unaware of why this rant is speing out of my keyboard, the quick rundown.
1. The fest was a fucking joke of epic proportions.
2. The sponsors were told that the expected crowd was between 5,000 and 6,000 fans at the fest. Actual attendance to the festival was between 300-400. Total. Because that scumbag did nothing to promote the show. Understand we play to more than that at Jaxx. This was divided among 3 stages, and those are total through the gate numbers. I never once saw more than 100 people together at any time.
3. The lineup was a debacle. From square one, bands were yanked from promised slots, thrown onto other stages, yanked again, jerked around, it was a joke. We'd spend all day handing out flyers telling people our slot and stage, and then get yanked into a different timeslot and stage. So did everyone else.
4. The sound on the Project Independence stage was horrific. Not bad, just broken. There were no vocals at all, they couldn't get them to work. On the 2nd night, they finally just turned the center stage monitors around, to get SOME vocals out. Drum mics? How about a vocal mic uspended over the toms, and a vocal mic laid down into the bass drum. And neither were turned on. Seriously. Guitars only occasionally worked through the PA. It was so bad, that on the 2nd night, the sponsor, Project Independence, tore down their huge banner while a band was playing, because they didn't want their name associated with the stage anymore. Sgortly after, they shut down the stage entirely, and tried to shunt the remaining bands onto the other two stages. That meant 10 and 15 minute sets, unless Jack was paying you, in which case he wanted to get his money's worth. Hence, we got yanked offstage so Broken Teeth, some cowboy cockrock band could play 30 minutes and chase every fan away (I think they played for like 7 or 8 people.)
In short, every promise made to us was broken. EVERY sponsor was insanely pissed. Every band was insanely pissed.
The headliners, God Forbid, got off their bus, ebtered the main stage area, saw that there was ~25 people ther, and said "What the fuck" (that's an exact quote from someone who was standing ther...priceless.
Go check out the MySpace page, www.myspace.com/metalfest
The secondary promoter posted a blog entry apologizing to all the bands and blasting Koshick for bailing out and robbing everyone. I'm not making any of this up.
It was so bad, that paid bands were walking out without playing (Rwake) sponsors were hurling flyers by the bulk onto the floor in rage and disgust....it was insane.
When the sound was going out on us on day 1, the fans that were there were on the verge of rioting against the sound folks. There seriously was almost a crowd fight on the sound crew.
At 11:00 on Saturday night, the 2nd stage manager grabbed his jacket and quit on the spot...just walked out of the arena. And the 2nd stage was the most popular, best sounding stage!!!!!
If anyone knows ANYONE who played, have them e-mail me immediately. There is recourse out there, and a plan in the works, but I don't want to get into it here yet, until some things are lined up. But have them contact me immediately, because the events sponsors are standing idly by. Action is being taken, and we need bands and sposnors who played to step up.
This was the death of the Milwaukee Metalfest. And that son of a bitch Koshick can rot in hell........after I get what's mine."
"OK, many of you have probably begun to hear the stories of what went down at Milwaukee Metalfest over the weekend. I wanted to post something quick, before I do a big full recap. I will be posting in installments, so bear with me. I'm dead tired, flat out exhausted tonight, but I needed to get some stuff of my chest.
As a sponsor, and as a member of a band performing MMF, I can honestly say we were stolen from. Jack Koshick delivered nothing we were promised. When the 3rd stage was closed Saturday, Jack tried to bump us from our slot....the one we earned by taking a bullet for the festival Friday night, so he could have Broken Teeth play a prime slot. I got right in Jack's grill, and told him as an event sponsor, I wasn't budging off that slot. He relented, but he got the last laugh as he had the sound guys pull us after 15 minutes.
Jack Koshick is a scumbag, a liar, and a thief. He steals money from the people who can least afford it, independent bands, and he leaves destruction in his wake. Most of the bands there this weekend pull bigger crowds at their home clubs than the entire MetalFest managed to pull in.
Jack Koshick took the bands' money, and the sponsors' money, promised us all a great fest, and then didn't lift a finger to promote it, to secure headliners, or to even hire real sound people for the stages.
I'm not going to bag on WIPZ (radio station running the sound for the 3rd stage), I have no idea who they are, or what their arrangement with Jack was, but when you show up to a huge MetalFest like that and don't even bring drum microphones, that's just a joke and an embarrassment, and proof positive that Jack Koshick didn't sink a dime into the actual fest. Trying to mic drumkits with spare vocal mics, having to turn monitors around to face the audience just so vocals can be heard....an absolute joke.
As soon as Jack got the chance, he screwed us royal. He's a scumbag, and a criminal.
For those who are unaware of why this rant is speing out of my keyboard, the quick rundown.
1. The fest was a fucking joke of epic proportions.
2. The sponsors were told that the expected crowd was between 5,000 and 6,000 fans at the fest. Actual attendance to the festival was between 300-400. Total. Because that scumbag did nothing to promote the show. Understand we play to more than that at Jaxx. This was divided among 3 stages, and those are total through the gate numbers. I never once saw more than 100 people together at any time.
3. The lineup was a debacle. From square one, bands were yanked from promised slots, thrown onto other stages, yanked again, jerked around, it was a joke. We'd spend all day handing out flyers telling people our slot and stage, and then get yanked into a different timeslot and stage. So did everyone else.
4. The sound on the Project Independence stage was horrific. Not bad, just broken. There were no vocals at all, they couldn't get them to work. On the 2nd night, they finally just turned the center stage monitors around, to get SOME vocals out. Drum mics? How about a vocal mic uspended over the toms, and a vocal mic laid down into the bass drum. And neither were turned on. Seriously. Guitars only occasionally worked through the PA. It was so bad, that on the 2nd night, the sponsor, Project Independence, tore down their huge banner while a band was playing, because they didn't want their name associated with the stage anymore. Sgortly after, they shut down the stage entirely, and tried to shunt the remaining bands onto the other two stages. That meant 10 and 15 minute sets, unless Jack was paying you, in which case he wanted to get his money's worth. Hence, we got yanked offstage so Broken Teeth, some cowboy cockrock band could play 30 minutes and chase every fan away (I think they played for like 7 or 8 people.)
In short, every promise made to us was broken. EVERY sponsor was insanely pissed. Every band was insanely pissed.
The headliners, God Forbid, got off their bus, ebtered the main stage area, saw that there was ~25 people ther, and said "What the fuck" (that's an exact quote from someone who was standing ther...priceless.
Go check out the MySpace page, www.myspace.com/metalfest
The secondary promoter posted a blog entry apologizing to all the bands and blasting Koshick for bailing out and robbing everyone. I'm not making any of this up.
It was so bad, that paid bands were walking out without playing (Rwake) sponsors were hurling flyers by the bulk onto the floor in rage and disgust....it was insane.
When the sound was going out on us on day 1, the fans that were there were on the verge of rioting against the sound folks. There seriously was almost a crowd fight on the sound crew.
At 11:00 on Saturday night, the 2nd stage manager grabbed his jacket and quit on the spot...just walked out of the arena. And the 2nd stage was the most popular, best sounding stage!!!!!
If anyone knows ANYONE who played, have them e-mail me immediately. There is recourse out there, and a plan in the works, but I don't want to get into it here yet, until some things are lined up. But have them contact me immediately, because the events sponsors are standing idly by. Action is being taken, and we need bands and sposnors who played to step up.
This was the death of the Milwaukee Metalfest. And that son of a bitch Koshick can rot in hell........after I get what's mine."
Gunstar9, it won't happen to yours. I don't know if I will make it based on time/distance but I hope to. But you have things going for you. You have some local bands playing that will promote the show, and get people to show up. I haven't seen much promotion about it yet other than just comments here and there about it, but I think that Wrekage will help to get people there by talking about it on their show. Aghora will get people there too I think/hope.
As long as you have your crew setup, and know you'll have appropriate sound I think everything will go well. Just make sure that you remind us regularly as it gets close so we don't forget =D
Mosquito
oh noes!!
Question: Who was playing at Milwaukee Metalfest? I can't even find the roster anywhere. I knew JK was a bastard from what I've heard over the years, but some of these stories are just unreal. It's sad when bands have to pay to be on a show at all, let alone a crappy one.
Glenn: Do you pay bands, or do they pay you? I am really hoping that it is the former but am very curious about it.
Glenn: Do you pay bands, or do they pay you? I am really hoping that it is the former but am very curious about it.
Harvester
The Promoter
I do not comment publically on finanical or business matters in association with the festival for obvious reasons. That said, I have no problem telling the world that bands do NOT pay me to perform.
Mosquito
oh noes!!
Yeah I wouldn't expect you to make public any details about financial matters. However, I was hoping you could at least let us know that bit.
Lord am I glad I decided not to drive up to this fest. Nothing against Glenn who I can tell had a craptacular time and man I am sorry to hear about your experiences, but I know the guys in Broken Teeth, all very good guys I've known for years and while they are not what most ProgPower listeners maybe jam out to NOR do they fit 99% of the other bands on the bill there is no need to insult them. Which I blame a promoter/booker for mismatching them more than the band, who just goes to play and get paid supposedly. They were the supposed to be headliners of a side stage from the comments I had last week before they drove to Milwaukee as part of their current 2 week tour. If anyone cares for this type of music they are very reminiscent of older AC/DC with a bit of Dangerous Toys style (vocally) as the singer is Jason McMasters who fronted Dangerous Toys and WatchTower, which maybe more people's speed on here.
Anyway, sorry to hear about this fiasco of epic proportions, but with that kind of money imagine what kind of festival a real promoter could have put on.
Anyway, sorry to hear about this fiasco of epic proportions, but with that kind of money imagine what kind of festival a real promoter could have put on.
eaeolian
Division Guitarist
So in other words, it ran just like every other Koshik fest, just far more low-rent because his star has declined so severely.
I know members of the band that made the post Glenn re-posted. I did *not* know they were messing with playing Metalfest, or I'd have told them to run far away. I've seen too many of his shows.
I know members of the band that made the post Glenn re-posted. I did *not* know they were messing with playing Metalfest, or I'd have told them to run far away. I've seen too many of his shows.
Mosquito
oh noes!!
Harvester
The Promoter
????? I assume there is another Glenn you are referring to other than me?
Edit: I just read Mike's post and realized you mistook my "re-post" as my own complaint. My apologies for the confusion. I'm not a member of any band nor have do I attend Metalfest. I just promote this festival.
Glenn,
Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a re-post of someone else, nothing but much love for you and ProgPower, even if I always wish for more power
than prog
I will be there this year for one more go around since you got Virgin Steele and Sonata Arctica, and Primal Fear (which will be my second time seeing them). So far saw Prog Power I, III, IV or was it V, and now this one.
If there was a couple more fests on your level of class and good running without jacked up issues for classic metal/true metal I would be very happy.
Charles
Sorry about that, didn't realize it was a re-post of someone else, nothing but much love for you and ProgPower, even if I always wish for more power
than prog I will be there this year for one more go around since you got Virgin Steele and Sonata Arctica, and Primal Fear (which will be my second time seeing them). So far saw Prog Power I, III, IV or was it V, and now this one.
If there was a couple more fests on your level of class and good running without jacked up issues for classic metal/true metal I would be very happy.
Charles
Harvester
The Promoter
This list is from an early press release at Blabbermouth. I have no idea how was "added" prior to the date and no idea who actually performed. I know Virgin Steele and Cage did not.
3 MILE SCREAM
A.N.J.
ABACINATE
ACHERONGODLESS RISING
AGENT STEEL
ANAL BLAST
AZREAL'S BANE
BATTERED
BEYOND AGONY
BIG BANG FURY
BLACK OIL
BROKEN TEETH
BYZANTINE
CAGE
CARDIAC ARREST
CORPSICLE
CRYOGEN
DEFINITION UNKNOWN
DEICIDE
DESTROYING ANGEL
DEVITALIZE
DIABOLIC POSSESSION
ENGORGE
EXCITER
FALLON
FLATLINE
GOD FORBID
GODROT
GORMAN PROPHECY
HABITUAL COERSION
HUNG
HURT LOCKER
I.R.A.T.E.
JAW
JUNGLE ROT
KRYTERIUM
LIFE GOES ON WITHOUT ME
LUPARA
MACABRE
MADLIFE
MASTERY
MENSREA
MERCYKILL
NINETAIL
ONE THEORY
OPIATE
PAIN PRINCIPLE
PROTEST
PURITY
PUTREFACTION
RAISE HELL
SKINLAB
SNAKE EYES SEVEN
SOMETHING WICKED
SOULFIGHT
STILLBORN PORTRAIT
TERATISM
THE DAGGER REBELLION
THE LEO PROJECT
THUS DEFILED
UNMERCYFUL
VAMPIRE MOOSE
VICIOUS RUMORS
VIRGIN STEEL
VISE
WACO JESUS
WICKED SAVIOR
WILL HAVEN
YEARS OF FIRE
Deicide bailed (no surprise) And I do not believe Exciter performed. What was REALLY incredible was that on the webpage they were advertising Dragonlord as the headliner! Dragonlord went, "We are headlining WHERE?!?"
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