So, did you get a Biff chant going then Pax?
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Paxoman
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Well I was told the tribute band were gonna come on at 8pm. So we left the pub at 7.45pm only to be confronted by a massive queue outside the Astoria with O/D Saxon already on stage! We got in just in time for the end of wheels of steel, and then it was all over! I can't say I was particularly heart broken though! But I can't tell you what they were like either! The singer did say though "we are Saxon", and I thought "No you kin ain't! The only regret I have is that I didn't see the gig from the start so that I could see if they were misleading people. But judging by the above remark by the singer, it seems that they were. There was a big crowd in there (something very unusual for a support band) and they seemed to have gone down well. But how many of those watching realised that they were NOT actually watching Saxon?
As for Dio. Well they played a very good set, including all the classics - Man on a silver mountain, Long live rock n roll, We rock, Mob rules, Stand up and shout, Don't talk to strangers, Children of the sea, Holy diver, Last in line, Rainbow in the dark, etc etc.
But why oh why do 'old school' bands think that solo's are entertaining? They arn't, they are boring, VERY VERY boring! After just 3 songs we were treated to a very mediocre drum solo. Then later on we were treated to a very very boring 10 minute guitar solo. Solo's are not entertaining, they are just self indulgent rubbish. Made even worse when they arn't particularly good solo's.
That said though, Dio did choose some cracking songs to play, so it was a very good night.
As for Dio. Well they played a very good set, including all the classics - Man on a silver mountain, Long live rock n roll, We rock, Mob rules, Stand up and shout, Don't talk to strangers, Children of the sea, Holy diver, Last in line, Rainbow in the dark, etc etc.
But why oh why do 'old school' bands think that solo's are entertaining? They arn't, they are boring, VERY VERY boring! After just 3 songs we were treated to a very mediocre drum solo. Then later on we were treated to a very very boring 10 minute guitar solo. Solo's are not entertaining, they are just self indulgent rubbish. Made even worse when they arn't particularly good solo's.
That said though, Dio did choose some cracking songs to play, so it was a very good night.
macc189
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I dont mean to sound pedantic but O/D Saxon arent a tribute band, they only play songs up to the point when Steve Dawson left the band (Innocence), therefore Oliver and Dawson have writing credits and how on earth can you be a tribute to something you wrote or co-wrote? I don't believe in what they are doing personally and do believe that they should change their name back to Son of a bitch but to call them a tribute is really harsh, especially considering these two guys helped to create some of the all time classics in metal (Crusader, Denim and Leather, Wheels of Steel etc etc etc) so at least give them some respect, even after all thats gone on.
Sammi951
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Well, Macc - you're entitled to your opinion...but I was also at that gig on Friday night, and they didn't sound like a tribute band...that would give tribute bands a bad name!! Only heard Princess of the Night and Wheels of Steel, but both sounded shite, to put not too fine a point on it. I wish I HAD seen more of their bit, so I could have compared the real Saxon with them a bit better - but there you go. I won't be rushing out to see them, that's for sure.
Sounded like a great night Pax.
On the Bloodstock board someone mentioned about Dio and they said that loads of people were watching Mickey/Mouse Saxon as well.
As you said though I wonder just how many of them knew that it wasn't actually Saxon
On the Bloodstock board someone mentioned about Dio and they said that loads of people were watching Mickey/Mouse Saxon as well.
As you said though I wonder just how many of them knew that it wasn't actually Saxon
Paxoman
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I was pretty much taking the piss out of O/D Saxon Macc, I don't actually think they are a tribute band. As Sammi said, they are shit, but not a tribute band. And if the 'singer' (maybe I should just use the term 'frontman') of O/D Saxon is reading this, you are NOT Saxon. You are just a bunch of misleading cheating muppets.
macc189
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I hope I didnt give the wrong impression but I actually saw an entire O/D Saxon show a couple of years ago in Birmingham, and to be fair, MUSICALLY they were spot on but by god that vocalist (John Ward I think his name is) needs shooting, maybe he's better suited to some other form of rock but not Saxon material, he just can't cut it. In fact the only song I thought he did well was a self penned song called 'Past the point'.
Oly and Dobby helped make Saxon what they are and are great at what they do, although as stated earlier I do believe they should change the name of the band back to Sonofabitch, it is misleading some people.
Oly and Dobby helped make Saxon what they are and are great at what they do, although as stated earlier I do believe they should change the name of the band back to Sonofabitch, it is misleading some people.
Paxoman
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Yep I totally agree with the name thing. Any true Saxon fan wouldn't touch O/D Saxon with a barge pole. Not so much because of their musical talents (or lack of, delete as appropriate!), but because of the snidey, misleading way they are doing things. If they had called themselves Son of a bitch then everyone would have been happy. Especially us fans because we would be getting two lots of Saxon shows! Of course without Biff there is no Saxon, so there will only ever be one true Saxon.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not so blinkered as to believe that Biff is whiter then white in all of this, because I'm sure he is not. And in a way I can even understand what Oliver/Dawson are doing. But at the end of the day they are misleading people, and that is simply not on. If they had only have called themselves SOB then all us true fans would have respected them. But then us true Saxon fans are fastly out numbered by floating fans/general rock fans who haven't got a clue what is going on. So why would Oliver/Dawson bother with the few true fans when they can make money out of the large amounts of people not in the know? Say's it all really I think.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not so blinkered as to believe that Biff is whiter then white in all of this, because I'm sure he is not. And in a way I can even understand what Oliver/Dawson are doing. But at the end of the day they are misleading people, and that is simply not on. If they had only have called themselves SOB then all us true fans would have respected them. But then us true Saxon fans are fastly out numbered by floating fans/general rock fans who haven't got a clue what is going on. So why would Oliver/Dawson bother with the few true fans when they can make money out of the large amounts of people not in the know? Say's it all really I think.
Twisted Tony
Old School Metalhead
Those assholes need to get a clue. There is only one Saxon! And Biff happens to be the singer of that band. Management needs to sic the lawyers on those guys! It's FUCKING BULLSHIT!! I might as well put together a band and say we are Saxon.
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