Social Networks; The Realm of Vacuous Mingling

[lurch70]

i always like it on FB when people write shit like ... Aurel is working ... no you're not fucking working, you are wasting taxpayer's money on Facebook.

 

[Johanna]

I think they are describing conversations such as what is seen on the Nevermore forum.

Idiot 1: I ate pizza today
Idiot 2: Omgzzz lollers did it half peperoni hardy har har


Conversations that lack substance, hence the quotation marks.

honestly, I do not know if most conversations between teenagers (or even adults) have any more substance than that in what we call real life either.

 

[Reign in Acai]

The thing is that conversations of depth rarely take place inside the home due to these distracting devices. Aside from holidays, how often do families sit around the dinner table nourishing their interpersonal relationships with one another? Many parents drop their kiddies off at the local internet cafe where they receive the services of an electronic babysitter for $2 an hour.

 

[Johanna]

The thing is that conversations of depth rarely take place inside the home due to these distracting devices. Aside from holidays, how often do families sit around the dinner table nourishing their interpersonal relationships with one another? Many parents drop their kiddies off at the local internet cafe where they receive the services of an electronic babysitter for $2 an hour.

so is this internets fault or the parents?

 

[einride]

so is this internets fault or the parents?

i don't think this is necessarily about placing blame but about recognizing that things are changing and probably not for the better

 

[Johanna]

i don't think this is necessarily about placing blame but about recognizing that things are changing and probably not for the better

Det var alltid bättre förr?

 

[einride]

yeah that's exactly what i said

 

[Dick Sirloin]

Yeah, vacuous until it gets you laid...

 

[Chromatose]

I think they are describing conversations such as what is seen on the Nevermore forum.

Idiot 1: I ate pizza today
Idiot 2: Omgzzz lollers did it half peperoni hardy har har


Conversations that lack substance, hence the quotation marks.

 

[Mormagil]

John Shehan from the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children said, "Once it's out there, while they might think it's just their classmates looking at these images, well, it's also the dirty old men. It's the pedophiles. It's those that want to sexually prey on children who take these images, who collect them and spread them worldwide."

It's a very real fear for parents. "It's alarming. They're not protected." "It's really disappointing! It's hard to be a parent today."

The kids said very often it starts as a girlfriend sending a boyfriend a picture, but then they break up, he shows a friend and it quickly gets forwarded around. It's a felony for children under 18 to not only receive one of these pictures on their phone, but taking a photo and sending it could lead to pornography production and distribution charges.

WTF, this in particular makes no sense.

 

[Demilich]

Sexting? How the fuck is sending someone a picture "text messaging" to begin with? A picture is NOT FUCKING TEXT!!

Social networks (mostly Facebook, never had Myspace or any of the other ones mentioned) have gotten me informed about a lot of metal shows, re-connected me with friends I haven't spoken to in years, helped me maintain friendships and keep in touch when I'm too busy to call but have time to drop a quick message / wall post to someone. I don't see the problem with it, unless you allow it to become a problem for yourself, but really, you make your own bed with that bullshit.

 

[lurch70]

Yeah, vacuous until it gets you laid...

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

I was just reading something interesting today about Facebook's "Terms of Use" agreement:

"By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

 

[Chromatose]

I thought they just revoked that clause the other day, heard something on the news 'bout that.

 

[wildfyr]

All our content are belong to them?

 

[En Vind Av Sorg]

Hmmmmm, it looks like they altered the clause now. It's even more fucking convoluted now than before.

Under the heading- "Proprietary Rights in Site Content; Limited License" for those interested-

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/terms.php?ref=pf

 

[Conspicuously Absent]

Children don't face a curriculum demanding enough to warrant the aid of a computer until high school. A library card can provide all the source material that is necessary, without the need to ask the question a/s/l.

Valid point, yet they also need to be trained for the main modern tool of anything but factories (and even there you often have computers running the machines).

That said, school boards need to get some intelligent people to set up a computer system that only allows the basics. Its not hard to set up a pretty hardcore content filter based on numerous lists of keywords. Or heck, lock it down to wikipedia and a few digital libraries, yes they can look up "breasts" but they'll get an encyclopedia entry.

Learning software is also highly underrated, and some of it can be hella fun... from my day: Oregon Trail, number muncher, and reader fucking rabbit (hellz yeah).

honestly, I do not know if most conversations between teenagers (or even adults) have any more substance than that in what we call real life either.

This is true, at least from my experiences on public transit in the morning and hearing teenagers babbling like morons.

so is this internets fault or the parents?

there should be breeding licenses, sad to say. Most of RC would find the concept easy to accept (and an easy license to gain), but for a lot of people, it would be impossible.

 

[swizzlenuts]

Number muncher RULES.

 

[Chromatose]

I blame Troggles for my fear/hatred of math.

 

[Johanna]

Valid point, yet they also need to be trained for the main modern tool of anything but factories (and even there you often have computers running the machines).

Exactly. Children will get in contact with computers and internet early in life so excluding it from the curriculum will be asking for trouble IMO. And using internet to search for 'source material' is far from everything that we should be teaching them... (especially since many internet sources are unreliable at best)

That said, school boards need to get some intelligent people to set up a computer system that only allows the basics. Its not hard to set up a pretty hardcore content filter based on numerous lists of keywords. Or heck, lock it down to wikipedia and a few digital libraries, yes they can look up "breasts" but they'll get an encyclopedia entry.

The few times computer usage actually was discussed more in depth during my education to become a teacher, this was one of the things that came up. I do agree that this easily could be done, but would it be a good solution? I mean, what happens when they get home or go to a friends house and then type in BREASTS ?! (probably nothing much, I've typed in BREASTS and I'm not too fucked up). I think what is really needed is that teachers (and parents) get a bit more up to date with technology so we actually can learn and help guide kids with this kind of stuff. And I could write a paper about this but I'm not really sure this is the right forum, hah.

Learning software is also highly underrated, and some of it can be hella fun... from my day: Oregon Trail, number muncher, and reader fucking rabbit (hellz yeah).

Indeed. And not to forget the "easy" stuff like word processors which actually, despite what the article says, can be a good tool to develop children's literacy. It's for example really good for kids that have bad motoring skills and have a hard time forming letters... and bla bla bla.