SONG SURVIVOR - Megadeth - Rust in Peace - Round 1

[HamburgerBoy]

If I didn't give the album another listen I would've given Prisoners my third vote, but yeah there's enough great riffing under the dumb lyrics/overall feel of the song.

 

[Somethingface]

Am I still excluded from these?

 

[crimsonfloyd]

How does it not have more? The lyrics/vocal delivery are terrible, the chorus riff is ordinary trad metal stuff, the thrashy parts are disconnected, it's a total mess of a song that's halfway to the Sweating Bullets sound.

Lyrics: These lyrics are fine and fit into the music and album’s theme and this song in particular quite well. I don’t need Pulitzer calibre lyrics in my thrash metal.

Vocals: Dave rarely sounds that great. Like most great Megadeth songs, Dave’s vocals here “work,” but nobody is listening to Megadeth for the vocals.

Music: When you describe music, it feels like you have a word wall you’re cutting and pasting from. It’s loaded with nebulous critiques like “ordinary trad metal stuff.”

If you’re talking about the slower, marching riff on the verse, then that riff slays and creates a great sense of menace. I love the way it transitions into the faster bridge riff while maintaining aspects of the original rhythm, before transitioning into that quick, spidery riff at the end of the progression.

I also love the way the song freezes and almost sounds like it reverses at the 4 minute mark as it transitions to a new progression. Works really well with the musical theme.

 

[jimmy101]

Yeah, Prisoners slays. Chock full of savage riffs, has that awesome bass tapping moment & I love Dave's rapid fire vocals. Not at all a mess or anything like Sweating Bullets. If anything it's similar to the Killing is my Business body of work.

That breakdown-y bit behind the vocal line "No-one knew what would happen there..." gets me every time.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

I think crimsonfloyd is talking about Polaris, not Prisoners, but I agree with you that it's many rounds too soon to be voting for Prisoners.

 

[jimmy101]

Note to self: read thread properly before posting

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Lyrics: These lyrics are fine and fit into the music and album’s theme and this song in particular quite well. I don’t need Pulitzer calibre lyrics in my thrash metal.

Vocals: Dave rarely sounds that great. Like most great Megadeth songs, Dave’s vocals here “work,” but nobody is listening to Megadeth for the vocals.

Music: When you describe music, it feels like you have a word wall you’re cutting and pasting from. It’s loaded with nebulous critiques like “ordinary trad metal stuff.”

If you’re talking about the slower, marching riff on the verse, then that riff slays and creates a great sense of menace. I love the way it transitions into the faster bridge riff while maintaining aspects of the original rhythm, before transitioning into that quick, spidery riff at the end of the progression.

I also love the way the song freezes and almost sounds like it reverses at the 4 minute mark as it transitions to a new progression. Works really well with the musical theme.

"Discharge my payload", "Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall", "Rotten egg air of death wrestles your nostrils", it's nearly Mechanix-tier juvenile, if I were a Deviantart fart fetishist and I wanted to sexualize nuclear warfare in a poem, it would read something like that song. Mustaine's voice works fine in a lot of songs, not this one. Half the song he tries to sing registers he shouldn't attempt and is as nasal as ever, the other half he just talks in a goofy cartoon voice. "Ordinary trad metal stuff" = it's basically a simple trot rhythm, dutdutdut DUH, dutdutdut DUH that you could find on any number of Maiden, Metal Church, etc songs and it doesn't fit on an album that's generally much more technical and rhythmically involved. I don't know what the appended thrashier parts in the last minute of the song represent in terms of the theme; the lyrics don't really tell a contiguous story, it just goes verse/chorus/verse/chorus in a kind of preachy way, and then "Eradication of Earth’s population loves Polaris". To keep things nuclear and Megadeth, Set the World Afire is both more progressive in arrangement, more plot-driven, and more musically thematic to the plot.

It's a leftover song from 1982 and it shows heavily. I don't know how anyone could attack Metallica's Escape for being out of place or streamlined and defend Polaris.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

HBB spreads disease like a dog.

 

[no country for old wainds]

yo tb how many are we voting out next round? could go 2-2-1 or 3-1-1

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yo tb how many are we voting out next round? could go 2-2-1 or 3-1-1

former sounds better to me.

 

[CiG]

"Discharge my payload", "Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall", "Rotten egg air of death wrestles your nostrils", it's nearly Mechanix-tier juvenile, if I were a Deviantart fart fetishist and I wanted to sexualize nuclear warfare in a poem, it would read something like that song.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

"Discharge my payload", "Immense in my girth, erect I stand tall", "Rotten egg air of death wrestles your nostrils", it's nearly Mechanix-tier juvenile, if I were a Deviantart fart fetishist and I wanted to sexualize nuclear warfare in a poem, it would read something like that song.

Lol it’s actually pretty sardonic look at how politicans sexualize their weapons in a “my dick is bigger than yours sense.” Pretty witty.

Mustaine's voice works fine in a lot of songs, not this one. Half the song he tries to sing registers he shouldn't attempt and is as nasal as ever, the other half he just talks in a goofy cartoon voice.

I think it sounds fine and find the tone of the more spoken parts to fit the tone of the perfectly.

"Ordinary trad metal stuff" = it's basically a simple trot rhythm, dutdutdut DUH, dutdutdut DUH that you could find on any number of Maiden, Metal Church, etc songs and it doesn't fit on an album that's generally much more technical and rhythmically involved.

That riff doesn’t need to be technical. In fact, it would take away from the passage if it was.

I don't know what the appended thrashier parts in the last minute of the song represent in terms of the theme; the lyrics don't really tell a contiguous story, it just goes verse/chorus/verse/chorus in a kind of preachy way, and then "Eradication of Earth’s population loves Polaris".

Honestly, I think the wit and dark humor of this song just goes over your head. It’s a mockery of our love of the things that will kill is. “Eradication of Earth’s population.” “Earth’s population loves Polaris.” Honestly, this discussion is making me appreciate the song a lot more.

I don't know how anyone could attack Metallica's Escape for being out of place or streamlined and defend Polaris.

Escape is the most upbeat song Metallica made on the first four albums. Totally out of place. Also, completely off topic.

 

[jimmy101]

Didn't Dave Mustaine win an episode of Jeopardy once, or something?

 

[Slammed]

He was a question on Jeopardy

 

[Sophii]

You're a question on Jeopardy

 

[Slammed]

He was actually an answer on Jeopardy but it's not like we get that show so who cares

 

[Sophii]

Jeopardy sucks. At least it kept me entertained when I was grounded at the age of like, 11.

 

[Slammed]

Well if you were like 11 in 2014 you should have seen his name come up as one of the answers

 

[Sophii]

To be honest I'm surprised he wasnt on Jeopardy as a contestant at one point.

 

[Slammed]

A goggle search actually says he was but the video is unavailable. Some celebrity version with Dweezle Zappa
But I remember the rag sites a while back saying his name appeared in some question on Jeopardy in 2014 because he tweeted about it to make sure everyone knew.