What's the deal with squatting over there? I've heard not only that is it legal, but squatters even have some right to utillities like water and electricity. Do they get these services for for free? 
? Squatting in the UK ?
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messiah of metal
Field Marshall
Yip we're arse backwards when it comes to Scum.
Read the link below for more info
http://www.squatter.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=25
Read the link below for more info
http://www.squatter.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=25
Saucy_Jack
Shit faced
derek
Grey Eminence
If we could have real workable schemes for genuine homeless people to find shelter then this bullshit wouldnt need to be around.
That whole thing is complete nonsense.
That whole thing is complete nonsense.
Jurched
Ask&YoullBeSorry
Final_Product said:
Say, do the brits have real homeless people? That is, people who are so poor they cannot afford rent, like in Algiers. Or, are they American style homeless, who are mad, or drunk, or on crack?
Jurched
MyHatred
Chief Ten Beers
Jurched said:
Or mad, drunk and on crack claiming to be a vietnam vet but is far too young to be one and they want you to trade real cash for their food stamps so they can buy some Steel Reserve malt liqour
. Yeah, I have alot of those where I live.Finland is a small fly´s shit somewhere in Fennoscandia, and we have pretty good safety-net; social workers ready to give tax payers money to every lazy bastard.
Even we have some cool hobos around here! I mean real zombies.
And drunk and heroin and dangerous too.
But when it comes to squatting or collecting food from dumpsters, fregans or something, it is allways and forever the (supposedly) outcast anarchist hippies who have these fucking ridicilous movements running useless things.
I mean whatta fuck? They all have two healthy hands to do some work.
Goverment practically offers them free rental apartments and welfare checks,
and still they want to play Che Guevara and run homeless.
Sure they do rallies and demonstrations,
Liberate animals from bunyards or zoos, but work?
Squatting? God I´m pissed. Ok you gotta tell the cops this and that, you have your rights, but never resposibilities...
Adolf, fire up some microwawes fer these squatters to crawl into.
Even we have some cool hobos around here! I mean real zombies.
And drunk and heroin and dangerous too.
But when it comes to squatting or collecting food from dumpsters, fregans or something, it is allways and forever the (supposedly) outcast anarchist hippies who have these fucking ridicilous movements running useless things.
I mean whatta fuck? They all have two healthy hands to do some work.
Goverment practically offers them free rental apartments and welfare checks,
and still they want to play Che Guevara and run homeless.
Sure they do rallies and demonstrations,
Liberate animals from bunyards or zoos, but work?
Squatting? God I´m pissed. Ok you gotta tell the cops this and that, you have your rights, but never resposibilities...
Adolf, fire up some microwawes fer these squatters to crawl into.
Evil Dead
Hail to the King baby
MyHatred said:Or mad, drunk and on crack claiming to be a vietnam vet but is far too young to be one and they want you to trade real cash for their food stamps so they can buy some Steel Reserve malt liqour
Dude STEELE RESERVE FUCKIN RULES!!! 4 dollars and im fucking WASTED hahaha
MyHatred
Chief Ten Beers
Evil Dead said:
Man, that shit smells like gasoline
I have drank alot of malt liquor (I'm not proud of it
) in my time but I refuse to even touch that bullshit.
Saucy_Jack
Shit faced
When I was in high school we used to have to do community service compulsory. Most people got to do gardening for old people or helping retards but I got stuck with the group that had to drive around the shithole areas of Sydney in a van at night and hand out sandwiches and coffee and shit to bums. A couple of them were actually grateful but 99% were like "Whats this shit?? I dont like penut butter. Gimme some more or I'll shank you with this dirty needle and throw feces at you." Overall they were some of the rudest ungreatful miserable pricks I've ever come across. I guess it is because in great countries like ours you are homeless by choice. Nobody has to be living on the streets. Try relocating some of these ingreats to Calcutta and see how they like being homeless then. Try fighting with a bunch of lepers and crippled children over a crust of bread and then tell me you dont like peanut butter! Put down the can of paint thinner and start spending your government checks on a fucking roof instead of scag. Unless they are mentally ill. In that case it is just sad.
nik
Dictator of Laughter
fuckin BIG ISSUE (homeless fucks charity mag!!) seller in my town has a better fuckin blower (mobile phone) than me!!!!!! There is no such fuckin thing as a someone homeless in the u.k...just plenty of drunk,cider fed,glue sniffing ,crack head mother fuckers who sponge off the state then try and sponge of little old ladies and liberal fucks BEGGING were do they think they are Bombay....kill everyone of them!!!! they make train platforms smell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NIK #73 (cheerleader sniffer)
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derek
Grey Eminence
johnnieCzech
Your favourite Czech
We have probably the same homeless guys as Brits do, gonna go London this year, might check it out! We have Czech version of Big Issue as well.
johnnieCzech said:
Something like that seems to exist in every country - it´s called "Augustin" here in Vienna and the sellers are as annoying as the down-and-outs sleeping in public toilets when you are going there to take a piss. Last Sunday morning I did my good deed for the next week by donating my last cigarette packet to some of them.
messiah of metal
Field Marshall
There was hell on up here in sunny Newcastle cos one of the regular Big Issue sellers uses his 'Profits' to fund his nights in the local Casino! The local paper ran a story and were told he could do what he wants with his money. Oh I forgot he's an addict and we should feel sorry for him! I'll donate the steam off my next shit.
Bleeearg, the law says that you have squatter's rights if you haven't gained entry to a premises illegally. It was supposed to stop unscrupulous landlords simply deciding they had had enough of their tenants and then turfing them out onto the street without due legal process.
There are two types of squatters:
1. In certain parts of the country, like London, some people have been living in flats that were owned by the Local Authority for many years. However, somewhere along the line, the system "forgot" to charge them rent. When the mistake has been discovered, the arrears are chased, but the squatters tell them to fuck off, in some cases they have been living there for 20/30 years or even longer! After that amount of time it is difficult to dislodge them, they have been paying their utility bills and these places are their homes, indistinguishable from any others nearby. The law protects these people.
In some parts of London there are huge properties, Georgian mansions and apartments etc, which were bought up by stinking rich property developers many years ago. Because these people, many of whom are foreign (OK, Arabs), have such huge property portfolios, and so many irons in the fire, they lose track of what they own.
Homeless people may see one of these huge properties boarded up, and break in for somewhere to kip down. After a week or two without being turfed out, they think about ripping the boards off the windows and getting the electric switched back on. After a month or two, they are living there seemingly legit. After several years or even longer, the developer decides he's going to rip the building down and put up some swish apartments. Except he's not, he's not allowed. If the residents have been there for a long enough, the property actually becomes THEIRS legally!!!!!
2. The second type of squatter is a lying, thieving worthless piece of cuntscum who spots a house he realises is empty, perhaps because the resident has moved to their new place, and the empty place is on the market. He gains entry, then turns the place into a doss house, trashing the building, and hooking into illegal electricity supplies. When the legal owner returns and tries to get into his house, the locks have been changed, and he can't call the police to remove the squatters. In fact they will arrest HIM if he tries to remove them by force. He has to go through a long and costly legal process to have them evicted. Not good when you need to sell the house to pay for your new place, we are talking about ordinary people here, not rich Arab property developers.
There have been cases of people coming home from 6 week stays with sick relatives to find their locks changed and some filthy scum living in their house. When they eventually get them evicted, they find that all their precious possessions, furniture,antiques, heirlooms etc, have been spirited away, the place is trashed. The only legal requirement is that the squatters cannot have gained entry by force. Obviously, they just say that they found the door open or a broken window and gained entry through there - it is very difficult to prove otherwise.
Of course, just because the law says that you can't remove squatters by force, doesn't mean that a van full of geezers won't arrive in the dead of night, "find an open door", gain entry and proceed to "encourage" the squatters to leave. With baseball bats. As with most things, it is the old or helpless who suffer, the people who play fairly, obey the rules and pay their way throughout their lives. Squatters, on the whole, are vermin, and should be liquidated.
There are two types of squatters:
1. In certain parts of the country, like London, some people have been living in flats that were owned by the Local Authority for many years. However, somewhere along the line, the system "forgot" to charge them rent. When the mistake has been discovered, the arrears are chased, but the squatters tell them to fuck off, in some cases they have been living there for 20/30 years or even longer! After that amount of time it is difficult to dislodge them, they have been paying their utility bills and these places are their homes, indistinguishable from any others nearby. The law protects these people.
In some parts of London there are huge properties, Georgian mansions and apartments etc, which were bought up by stinking rich property developers many years ago. Because these people, many of whom are foreign (OK, Arabs), have such huge property portfolios, and so many irons in the fire, they lose track of what they own.
Homeless people may see one of these huge properties boarded up, and break in for somewhere to kip down. After a week or two without being turfed out, they think about ripping the boards off the windows and getting the electric switched back on. After a month or two, they are living there seemingly legit. After several years or even longer, the developer decides he's going to rip the building down and put up some swish apartments. Except he's not, he's not allowed. If the residents have been there for a long enough, the property actually becomes THEIRS legally!!!!!
2. The second type of squatter is a lying, thieving worthless piece of cuntscum who spots a house he realises is empty, perhaps because the resident has moved to their new place, and the empty place is on the market. He gains entry, then turns the place into a doss house, trashing the building, and hooking into illegal electricity supplies. When the legal owner returns and tries to get into his house, the locks have been changed, and he can't call the police to remove the squatters. In fact they will arrest HIM if he tries to remove them by force. He has to go through a long and costly legal process to have them evicted. Not good when you need to sell the house to pay for your new place, we are talking about ordinary people here, not rich Arab property developers.
There have been cases of people coming home from 6 week stays with sick relatives to find their locks changed and some filthy scum living in their house. When they eventually get them evicted, they find that all their precious possessions, furniture,antiques, heirlooms etc, have been spirited away, the place is trashed. The only legal requirement is that the squatters cannot have gained entry by force. Obviously, they just say that they found the door open or a broken window and gained entry through there - it is very difficult to prove otherwise.
Of course, just because the law says that you can't remove squatters by force, doesn't mean that a van full of geezers won't arrive in the dead of night, "find an open door", gain entry and proceed to "encourage" the squatters to leave. With baseball bats. As with most things, it is the old or helpless who suffer, the people who play fairly, obey the rules and pay their way throughout their lives. Squatters, on the whole, are vermin, and should be liquidated.
Jurched
Ask&YoullBeSorry
nik said:
Nik, you are muthafuckin awesome, man! What more can I say?
There ain't no such thing as the pitiful homeless in the US or UK or any normal country.
There are the people Nik listed above, of course, who prefer to lie in a gutter staring at passing clouds and normal people while their brain cells dissolve on some complex molecule solution.
There are transition people, of course, who ran into some heavy shit and are temporarily without hearth n home. I spoke with a few of em a while back, down at the "by the week or by the hour" motel. Sorry stories in that place. But everyone gets back on their feet sooner or later, finding themselves a place to settle.
But there are none of those horrific displays, those desperately poor miserabvle hopeless scavengers one finds on the streets of Bombay, huddling like bundles of trash under flaxen sheets at night in the monsoon rains. That's reserved for countries that hippy liberals love so much and want us to become.
Jurched
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