stay fucking away from this CD

The new CD is failt dull comapred to Awake and Train OF Thought .... But if you look at DT's evolution over the years they always tend to have a dull album after a really good one.

If you look at it

Images & Words - Very Exciting CD awsome music all around
Awake - Awsome Deaprture into heavier terriory - Good album
Change of seasons - All around a Dull album except the title track.
Falling Into Infinty - Total Suckage
Metropolis 2000 - Great Album cool songs good movements
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance - Boring Album
Train Of Thought - Amazing albm all around
Octavarium - Dull Album

So if the past is any indecation witht he band the next album should be Amazing. I am happy Petrucci decided to SLOW DOWN and play more like he did on the 1st 4 albums. His guitar tone on this one is his best to dat in my opinion. Its very CLEAR and Atriculated.

Da Fukn Guru
 
I don't agree with you Phish... Even though I think Mike is one of the most creative drummers (and songwriters) of all time, I think there are others in the same field, but I don't consider Van to be one of them. I love Van's playing, but it is far from creative when compared to some of the drummers around today. Go and listen to Akira Jimbo. ;)

rebirth, why do you despise Dream Theater? Even the heaviest metalheads pay respect to them, they don't have to like them though.
 
rebirth said:
oh ok, i am stupid hahahah
If you honestly think that Portnoy isn't an amazing drummer, then yes, you're stupid. If you've ever seen DT live at Gigantour or something, you'd know.
 
rebirth said:
Prog Metal/Rock what a joke, can the singer sing 8 octaves, no...is *never enough* a prog metal song off the new one, no doe s the keyboarding match the guitaring no...,the drumming is a drum machine , clicker, based onthe whole thing sounds like a pro tools project for 3 weeks...want to hear some cool, shit, try WEEN, listen to the *fucked jam* song....ok....
put your money where the good stuff is for your mind and soul....

And here I thought there were only 4 octaves...
 
I still like Dream Theater, except their latest output has been pretty flat. I dig Train of Thought when i'm not really in a mood to think and Octavarium is decent, but nowhere near their earlier works.

I don't consider DT to be progressive at all anymore, to be honest.
 
rebirth said:
talented drummer bullshit, i doubt he can tune a drum kit in 30mins....for a studio recording...


Ummm dude ....

i mean we agree on alot of things but this is the dumbest thing ive heard. As Will knows i grew up in NY. Not to far from Trucci and Myung. We used to gig with them in my old band in the late 80s when they were Majesty.

Portnoy CAN tune his drums. Very well i might add. He actually tunes them to specific notes (or atleast he did back then)

As for talent, the dude is AMAZING... His ability to move each appendage on his body totally independantly of one another, including playing different time signatures on different DRUMS as the same time is amazing. I really feel only 1 or 2 other guys on the planet come even close to portnoy. Those being Virgil Donati and Neil Pert....

As far as Van. I think his footwork is much more impressive then Portnoy, hes not the same type of drummer. Van is more (for lack of a better term metal) He leads with his feet as opposed to portnoy who can lead with any part of his body.

Richard Christie is another guy with AMAZING feet. Closer to portnoys caliber in my opinion. He can play very well and very quick.

As far as ween, you want to consider them prog go ahead, they are nothing more than a jam band and a shitty one at that. You want a good jam band listen to Phish or the grateful dead. Try some Rusted Root, or Indigenous. Those are good jam bands.

Dream Theater is a Progressive Rock band, thats all. Nothing special. 90% of the riffs are regurgitated 70;s 80;s and 90;s tunes.

They have ripped off a shitload of bands in the past few years.

Namely

TOOL their song 46&2 is the exact same riff DT stole for HOME on the Metro 2000 CD

They Ripped off Metallica AND Megadeth on train of though, in the same song none the less ....lol (cant remember the name of tune but they do) Theres a section that sounds like Blackened and then right after it theres a break where Labrie tries to grown and whine like Mustaine ... its pretty sickening.

They are Tapped out on Riffs, the only refresing thing anout that band is Rudess. In my opinion DT died when Moore left the band.

Da Fukn Guru
 
It's not that bad of an album. They've been experimenting with different sounds.

I personally like The Root of All Evil the best because of the fact that it's part 3 (of 4) of The Glass Prison. The fact that Portnoy wrote The Glass Prison as part 1, This Dying Soul as part 2, The Root of All Evil as part 3 and the next album having part 4, is actually pretty damn cool.
 
guitarguru777 said:
Dream Theater is a Progressive Rock band, thats all. Nothing special. 90% of the riffs are regurgitated 70;s 80;s and 90;s tunes.

Which is a big reason I don't consider them progressive anymore.
 
Da Fukn Guru yeah thats true in some of the points, glad someone sees it..., its not tool, anymore its PLACEBO the band fromthe uk, now all metal bands are ripping tehre style....
yeah i got all of moores stuff as well, he is very creative...
 
guitarguru777 said:
The new CD is failt dull comapred to Awake and Train OF Thought .... But if you look at DT's evolution over the years they always tend to have a dull album after a really good one.

If you look at it

Images & Words - Very Exciting CD awsome music all around
Awake - Awsome Deaprture into heavier terriory - Good album
Change of seasons - All around a Dull album except the title track.
Falling Into Infinty - Total Suckage
Metropolis 2000 - Great Album cool songs good movements
Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance - Boring Album
Train Of Thought - Amazing albm all around
Octavarium - Dull Album

So if the past is any indecation witht he band the next album should be Amazing. I am happy Petrucci decided to SLOW DOWN and play more like he did on the 1st 4 albums. His guitar tone on this one is his best to dat in my opinion. Its very CLEAR and Atriculated.

Da Fukn Guru

I agree with you, Octavarium is not as good as previous albums although "Panic Atack" and the title track are pretty damn good. Also, DT is excellent live. I would suggest thet someone get the "Live at Budokan DVD" to catch the truy live experience Of DT.