the altered state of consciousness thread

[jakethedog]

I love reading this thread, and feeling like i did not have a legit college experience.

I thought the legit college experience was banging 10 girls, in which case I don't think I had it either.

Though at the same time I think it's funny people were jealous of me. I've always bitched about how my life sucks.

 

[damnromulans]

Never heard of that before; what's the high like?

I can't really compare it to anything I've done but people say it's nearly identical to MDA. I've only done it once but it was not unlike the first time I ever did ecstasy (pill). Just massive rushes of euphoria and good bodyfeels, with a bit of a psychedelic edge. Best music enhancement I've found with anything. We went to a basically empty electronic music event on a Wednesday night and were the only four people on the dance floor. I'd rate it the best possible festival drug since the peak is like 6-8 hours long.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

That sounds awesome. That's one thing about ecstasy- the high is just never long enough.

Gonna try and get to a Burning Man party this week and take that moonrock with my friend.

 

[damnromulans]

Sounds fun! Hope they are awesome. I feel like the anticipation of it wearing off makes MDMA not even worth it for me to do most of the time.

I am at that point where I need to take it easy and not even flirt with flirting with becoming dependent on drugs for entertainment. I really enjoyed my 100% sober weekend of hiking.

 

[jakethedog]

When I took molly the high was way more pleasant and euphoric than what I felt with coke, but didn't last anywhere near as long as I'd hoped. Planning it on doing again soon and hoping for better. Not as good as pure psychedelics but way better than any of that other crap.

For the most part though, I'm going to just stick with weed. And my therapist told me I really shouldn't have more than 3 beers with klonopin, so I'll have to watch it with that too.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

When I took molly the high was way more pleasant and euphoric than what I felt with coke, but didn't last anywhere near as long as I'd hoped. Planning it on doing again soon and hoping for better. Not as good as pure psychedelics but way better than any of that other crap.

For the most part though, I'm going to just stick with weed. And my therapist told me I really shouldn't have more than 3 beers with klonopin, so I'll have to watch it with that too.

The thing with E and molly is it's often cut with crap. Sometimes there's no MDMA in it at all. So you really need to know your supplier, but good stuff will send you into most beautiful bliss you've ever experienced and you will experience love and acceptance in a way you never have before. The environment and people you're around is important too, but then again that's true with all psychedelics.

 

[Der Morgenstern]

Afghani kush has been the norm for me lately.

 

[jakethedog]

The thing with E and molly is it's often cut with crap. Sometimes there's no MDMA in it at all. So you really need to know your supplier, but good stuff will send you into most beautiful bliss you've ever experienced and you will experience love and acceptance in a way you never have before. The environment and people you're around is important too, but then again that's true with all psychedelics.

Problem is, every time I did these drugs, I was with my friends who were doing far more, leaving me with almost nothing (despite the fact that I was the one paying for it...) There were several times I just KNEW the shit was cut though. A high from molly should last more than half an hour, and feel way better than just a slight euphoria. I need some better experiences.

I also reconnected with my old high school best friend (read: only friend) the other night, and we talked about our acid trips. He said that it wasn't until he did acid that he finally felt comfortable with his being gay - thus coming out to me. I feel like if this is the experience people have, it can do several good things as well as bad. My sister was with us and explained that Steve Jobs said that LSD was the best thing he ever did. Some crazy shit.

One thing though - anyone know the experiences with people diagnosed with bipolar when using these drugs? I've never had much of a drug problem, but I've been a little more into that lifestyle than most of my immediate family. I'm just afraid I'm going to end up messed up because of my illness, despite the fact that I usually approach it knowing what I'm getting into. Any help at all on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

 

[damnromulans]

Do lots of homework re: interactions if you take antidepressants. MAOIs can interact dangerously with lots of things. If you're on an SSRI, theoretically MDMA and other things won't work as they should, though a friend of mine who is bipolar stupidly double-dosed his Lamictal and took MDMA and 6-APB and FREAKED OUT.

LSD can "unlock" things for some people, so some people have revelations about stuff and others begin to exhibit schizophrenia or other mental illnesses that have been latent/incubating. I don't think there is any evidence that it CAUSES anything other than HPPD with overuse.

I didn't try LSD until I was 26 and I don't find it that profound. Might be really different if I were younger and still in hardcore self-discovery mode.

 

[monoxide_child]

I'm not old enough for a medical card, and I'm too cheap and poor to pay what most dealers are charging.

aaahhh
i see now

 

[monoxide_child]

I love smoking weed and drinking coffee. Used to do it before class all the time. You get the head high but aren't gonna be sitting around

this^^ is what i feel when i mix weed with coffee

Weed and coffee often gives me this paradoxical feeling of tiredness and restlessness. It's really irritating.

this^^ is what i felt when i mixed heroin with meth

 

[monoxide_child]

Reading over the past two pages... you guys are into some shit!

haha
you expected us to be sober people??

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Problem is, every time I did these drugs, I was with my friends who were doing far more, leaving me with almost nothing (despite the fact that I was the one paying for it...) There were several times I just KNEW the shit was cut though. A high from molly should last more than half an hour, and feel way better than just a slight euphoria. I need some better experiences.

Yeah it should last at least 4 hours. Honestly what you had might have just been caffeine or amphetamines. When you have real MDMA you'll KNOW that you took MDMA.

I also reconnected with my old high school best friend (read: only friend) the other night, and we talked about our acid trips. He said that it wasn't until he did acid that he finally felt comfortable with his being gay - thus coming out to me. I feel like if this is the experience people have, it can do several good things as well as bad. My sister was with us and explained that Steve Jobs said that LSD was the best thing he ever did. Some crazy shit.

Yeah I've experienced so much personal growth from psychedelics and MDMA throughout my life. If you take drugs with the proper intent and attitude you can learn a lot from the experiences.

One thing though - anyone know the experiences with people diagnosed with bipolar when using these drugs? I've never had much of a drug problem, but I've been a little more into that lifestyle than most of my immediate family. I'm just afraid I'm going to end up messed up because of my illness, despite the fact that I usually approach it knowing what I'm getting into. Any help at all on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

erowid.org is a great resource for learning about all aspects of drug use, from chemical make up to effects to laws.

Here's an article on LSD and antidepressants, I'm sure there's similar articles for other drugs.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/maois/maois_info4.shtml

 

[monoxide_child]

i've been smoking the "k2" stuff

but not the actual brand "k2", i've been smoking the stuff that says "do not burn" on the package

i feel hungover now (11:30 AM) from what i smoked last night (just after sunset)
i've taken several different brands and i think i may have last night taken the one that makes you piss positive for opium on a piss-test

is this normal for smoking potpuri??
why the fuck do i feel hung-over if i didn't have any alchohol??

also, i know for sure that i took the one that makes you piss positive for opium on a piss test several days ago and that didn't have an opium-type-high at all

 

[jakethedog]

So my birthday dinner tonight turned into a discussion of my sister and I telling our parents about all the drugs we've done. She did shrooms in Amsterdam (which my mom, who grew up in the Woodstock Era, didn't even know was a drug) and when I said "that's the one drug I haven't done", she says "HAVE YOU DONE COKE?" When I told her I had, she kinda freaked. Though my parents were right there and were like, completely nonchalant. Told her I'd never done heroin though... fuckin waste of space drug.

Monoxide (and sadly, I know you won't see this) but, STAY AWAY from K2. That shit's nuts. I have smoked it and had no problem, but I know multiple people who had psychotic reactions to that. It's unregulated, so you never know what the hell you're smoking. Just stick to the regular ganja, man.

Now excuse me as I go out to smoke a cigarette. Yay for nothing but cancer.

 

[Nephilim96]

Cocaine seems really stupid too.

I'm sure Monoxide is reading this board everyday. Being banned doesn't stop you from being able to read the forum.

 

[jakethedog]

Cocaine seems really stupid too.

I'm sure Monoxide is reading this board everyday. Being banned doesn't stop you from being able to read the forum.

Didn't know that. I was once banned from a forum where I had no access at all. I'm glad he can at least read it and get my advice and stop smoking synthetic drugs.

But I feel the same way about coke - if you look back you can see what I said about it. Biggest waste of money in my life. Besides all the shit I bought my (ex)girlfriend this weekend.

 

[SentinelSlain]

He might not be able to login, but he can view without being.

 

[jakethedog]

Ohh, true. Not like he'd listen to any of our advice anyway, but at least I can say I tried...

 

[Vimana]

LSD can "unlock" things for some people, so some people have revelations about stuff and others begin to exhibit schizophrenia or other mental illnesses that have been latent/incubating. I don't think there is any evidence that it CAUSES anything other than HPPD with overuse.

I did a lot of acid last year and early this year, and it can make you crazy even if you're not. I started looking so deep into possibilities about people's interaction and development that I never did before and started seeing the world as a miserable dystopia of emptiness and hatred and desperately wanted to save it. I got really emotional about it, to the point I felt bad for almost a day after listening to Tupac and having it occur to me that the horrible experiences he describes in his songs actually do happen pretty frequently to people.

I felt enlightened to a problem no one understood and it really stressed me out. I found happiness so easy, didn't consider that it was because I was on drugs, and it got to me that others didn't.

Now, I don't care. If one of those people holding signs at a shopping center begging for money comes up next to my car I will intentionally not look at them. I also want my hoodie back from that homeless woman I gave it to. I liked that hoodie.

Now I just smoke weed. It feels really nice, minus these weird moments I get when I reflect on sober thoughts and find myself going "holy shit, that's fucking stupid/crazy!" Also, coming home late at night and walking through a dark house high as fuck and imagining all the scary things I can is not fun, either.

Nothing beats standing on an empty street at night with some Poliça playing, looking up at the sky and smoking a joint, though.