I've was enjoying this doc until they headed for Norway. It's sad how Sam Dunn made the norwegian metal scene stand out as a narrowminded, braindead, childish bunch of arsenists in an otherwise good film.
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I totally agree.
I saw the documentary last year and I was enjoying it as well. When the guy heads to Norway, with Enslaved as background music, I almost had goosebumps. However, the norwegian black metal scene was portrayed as a bunch of church-burning guys who did a lot of stupid things when they were younger. I was sad to aknowledge that Sam Dunn actually went to Norway and said nothing about the music, just focused on the historic events that everyone already knows.
Almost all the documentaries that I saw about heavy metal or black metal only focus on the polemic events that ocurred. What about music? What about the birth, evolution and understanding of black metal?
The only one I actually liked was:
In this one, the guys meet Ghaal and I could actually understand the motivations of Gorgoroth, even when I don't like the band very much.
What I really would like to know is how you norwegians felt through the evolution of music. How was it to grow up in the black metal scene and live in it on a daily basis?
I saw the documentary last year and I was enjoying it as well. When the guy heads to Norway, with Enslaved as background music, I almost had goosebumps. However, the norwegian black metal scene was portrayed as a bunch of church-burning guys who did a lot of stupid things when they were younger. I was sad to aknowledge that Sam Dunn actually went to Norway and said nothing about the music, just focused on the historic events that everyone already knows.
Almost all the documentaries that I saw about heavy metal or black metal only focus on the polemic events that ocurred. What about music? What about the birth, evolution and understanding of black metal?
The only one I actually liked was:
In this one, the guys meet Ghaal and I could actually understand the motivations of Gorgoroth, even when I don't like the band very much.
What I really would like to know is how you norwegians felt through the evolution of music. How was it to grow up in the black metal scene and live in it on a daily basis?
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Defiance
I vårens ljusa kvällar
Haha yeah I agree, I was thinking during the entire part 'Oh here we go again'
. Actually the Canadian guy who did the film said that that specific part (was it with the Mayhem guys or something? I don't really know, but I think they said 'fuck' a lot of times) was a waste of film and wished he didn't have to include it 
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Qu Appelle
Tree hugger
Doomtroll
Cinnamon and Sodomy
I thought the entire thing was horrible. I'm just hoping 'Until the light takes us' will do a better job at showing the Norwegian Metal scene.
Agah
Abide
I'm just hoping someone will pull their finger out of their ass and release that one on DVD.
Qu Appelle
Tree hugger
Fenris.
Doomtroll
Cinnamon and Sodomy
Those bands hardly give Norway a bad reputation, despite some of the bad shit the two bands were involved in they both make some fantastic music which in the end is all that should really be focused on. The blokes from Mayhem could be massive twats, I don't know, I've never met them; I just think that the interviewer caught them at a terrible time which for me seems incredibly unprofessional.
Why?
Kerros
Kerry nooo!
Best part of the documentary is, "Yeah I have a comment. FUCK YOU, ya know?" I crack up every time.
Alteredmindeath
Wasteland Survivor
MetalVixen
anti-stella
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I don't think Sam Dunn made it appear like anything... he told it like it is. He gave everyone he interviewed the chance to say what they wanted to say... and some of them just chose to say "freedom" .... and "satan" .
Hmm... + it wasn't his objective to make a comprehensive story of the norwegian metalscene, just this aspect of it, the extreme( that was the theme of this particular chapter in the movie).. Maybe he should have mentioned that or maybe not.. people should be able to assume he's not generalizing about all metal in Norway.
darcy
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Did you watch it on DVD? Check out the the special features. He did a screening tour which included a trip to Norway... where the entire crowd said precisely that. He looks like he's trying to sink into his chair and hide. It's actually introduction to the 20-minute mini-documentary he cut from his unused footage. I thought it was pretty good, it's like his penance for not including enough about the actual music. Worth checking out!
I think the other thing to keep in mind is that the documentary itself is more about the culture and ideology of metal, rather than the musical history. You're right though, and it's an error he's admitted to.
I think the other thing to keep in mind is that the documentary itself is more about the culture and ideology of metal, rather than the musical history. You're right though, and it's an error he's admitted to.
paradoxile
Den Sista Ljusbäraren
anyone seen the sequel?
he did make another film called Global metal...I was actually interviewed for that film but i was edited out.
I spoke at the time about the violence that goes on in non metal clubs in israel and the lack of it in metal clubs and shows. I said that essentially the metal crowd is made of good kids that channel their agressions into moshing instead of fighting and stabbing each other.
the subject wasn't too related to the film's subject.
he did make another film called Global metal...I was actually interviewed for that film but i was edited out.
I spoke at the time about the violence that goes on in non metal clubs in israel and the lack of it in metal clubs and shows. I said that essentially the metal crowd is made of good kids that channel their agressions into moshing instead of fighting and stabbing each other.
the subject wasn't too related to the film's subject.
Agah
Abide
Yeah, I saw it. It was pretty interesting, especially the part with the Asian businessmen rocking out.
Defiance
I vårens ljusa kvällar
I saw it too, it's too bad you were left out. I thought it was a decent documentary, I prefer the first one, and I feel that many countries were left out. Of course, one/he can only cover so much in one documentary.
paradoxile
Den Sista Ljusbäraren
I feel no harm has been done in regarding to the first movie when the norway scene was misrepresented.Before he interviewed the guys from mayhem he said mayhem is a contravercial band, that by deffinition points out that most of the scene is not so.
besides most people who saw it were metalheads anyway and they know it ain't so.
I think Sam was looking to show extreme things in the documentry, otherwise it wouldn't be interesting so he did show church burnings and varg and mayhem and gaahl(lol!)
besides most people who saw it were metalheads anyway and they know it ain't so.
I think Sam was looking to show extreme things in the documentry, otherwise it wouldn't be interesting so he did show church burnings and varg and mayhem and gaahl(lol!)
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