CiG
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being accosted by a white person unfortunately puts many black people into a survivalist mentality too.
Survivalists don't purposely pursue an altercation with the thing they deem a threat, but nice try.
being accosted by a white person unfortunately puts many black people into a survivalist mentality too.
No, they don't. This dead guy thought he could get away with chasing after someone and violently pushing them to the ground because that person said some angry words about a handicap parking space. That's not a survivalist mentality, that's a privileged mentality.
Because it can only be one or the other. Please spare me.
but at the same time, being accosted by a white person unfortunately puts many black people into a survivalist mentality too.
They do if the accosting constitutes an altercation. Black experience is very from white experience.
Please spare me, privileged white guy who has no fucking clue about the mentality of minorities.
So when you say this:
It directly contradicts what most minorities are taught about living in a majority white society, or at least what they claim to have been taught.
So tell me, what exactly about the black man's reaction to WORDS speaks to being put into a survivalist mentality? The whole point of survivalism is to survive.
Fuck you, I'm sorry, but I do have some fucking clue.
And I'm telling you right now that altercations between blacks and whites are experienced quite differently on both sides.
So the lesson here is that a black person's options are submit or be killed. That's real fucking enlightened.
Should he have responded with increased aggression? No. But this incident does nothing to convince black people that white people won't kill them if they step out of line.
If it had been two white people, I'm willing to bet the results would have been different.
And unfortunately, words aren't immaterial--especially for black people in America.
I don't think any of this justifies lethal force. Apologizing for it invites chaos.
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Is there a definitive statement regarding the Florida shooting? I strongly support shooting violent people, but if I walk to my car and see a guy yelling at my wife as he stands right up next to the passenger window, potentially sticking parts of himself through the window, a simple shove seems like a reasonable response to me. The black guy didn't make any motions indicating that he was going pummel the guy on the ground (in contrast to Trayvon Martin), and the situation looked approximately defused for the brief moment before the guy shot him. I don't really give a fuck about the handicapped though; people that park in handicapped spots signal to the world that they're entitled dicks, but there's almost always open spots regardless, and most people with those placards are probably obese pieces of shit that could use an extra walk.
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I don't disagree with this. Altercations between whites and whites are also very different because no one person's context is the exact same. I could argue that our (as in you and I) differences in class mean that an altercation between you and I would be more different than an altercation between you and an upper class black person.
When I said "No, they don't" previously I was referring to your response to me when I said "Survivalists don't purposely pursue an altercation with the thing they deem a threat." because you said "They do if the accosting constitutes an altercation." - Not that whites and blacks experience altercations very differently. Apologies for not being clear about what I meant by that.
The aim of a survivalist mentality is to survive and that doesn't include pursuing the threat. The black man wasn't trying to survive, he was trying to prove something with physical force. The white man with the gun who was attacked physically did exactly what a survivalist does to a threat: he eliminated it.
Whether he was right or wrong is strictly a matter for hindsight.
No and that's a pathetic dichotomy. His options were to respond verbally, leave, submit and apologize or act irrationally and die. At least those are the main options I see. It's not that he stepped out of line, it's that he went out of his way to physically attack somebody else who happened to be carrying a firearm.
What he essentially did was chase after a lion to his own detriment because it growled at him. Again, you said what he did was due to being put into a survivalist mentality, explain how that is the case? It seems more like the altercation put him into a hyper-masculine mentality.
You would like a world where people have significant fear of getting physically blindsided for vocally enforcing the ethical treatment of the infirm?
I'd rather live in a world where someone doesn't need to fear being killed for escalating an altercation--inappropriate and unnecessary though it may be--and only needs to fear legal recourse (although in this country, that carries its own issues for black people).