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Difficult to say.. it depends on what the different groups think they can make of the situation and how well the government can keep radical groups under control.. I think some shit will hit the fan but nothing we havent seen before. I just hope Sharon fucks off soon so that maybe someone else willing to give peace a try will take his place
Honestly I think Sharon is a great leader, he made it hard for them to penetrate Israel, and they can basicly do nothing...Northern Viking said:
Evan84
Absinthe Minded
you'r ironic, Israel arn't terrorist, but civillized nation.Evan84 said:
they actually block the rats from getting in your area.
Falconspirit
I Died A Little
sumairetsu
Joker's Favorite
What I find hilarious is that people expect Israel to just be bombed again and again by Palestinians without exacting revenge and then those people act surprised when Isreal does something about it (bulldozing houses; launching missles; counterstrikes, etc.) and it gets labeled as "Isreali terrorism."
Honestly kids, you don't send a message of strength as a nation when someone attacks you and you don't follow through with your own attack.
Oh wait, that sounds like the Bush Administration after 9/11/01.
Honestly kids, you don't send a message of strength as a nation when someone attacks you and you don't follow through with your own attack.
Oh wait, that sounds like the Bush Administration after 9/11/01.
I agree that Israel shouldnt let the Palestinians run them over, but then again you're just fooling yourselves when you think any of Israel's actions leads to peace.
The US and Israel are governed by radicals, dont forget that.
After what happened when the Brits moved out and pretty much all your neighbours tried to invade your country, I dont blame you for being pissed off but you're fooling yourself when you think you can win the war on terror. You're not doing yourselves a favour by letting this war wage on
The US and Israel are governed by radicals, dont forget that.
After what happened when the Brits moved out and pretty much all your neighbours tried to invade your country, I dont blame you for being pissed off but you're fooling yourself when you think you can win the war on terror. You're not doing yourselves a favour by letting this war wage on
Sonnenritter
Active Member
Sharon is a terrorist, plain and simple. He has as much blood on his hands as the Palestinians. Anyone that believes otherwise is delusional. Both sides are at fault, so quit acting like Israel is taking the moral highroad.
People are not expendable, government is.
People are not expendable, government is.
sumairetsu
Joker's Favorite
Northern Viking said:
Don't blame me. I didn't vote for Bush. (And, if the voting sysytem wasn't being handled by private, for-profit corporations who keep their software source code - Windows-based, I might add - secret from the public and the tabulating of the votes hidden from the public so that no public disclosure could be made, and there were verifiable paper ballots printed from these machines, we probably would have seen a very different outcome to this election.) If someone who actually had the brains required to run this country (USA) was in office, this war may have been over by now. History being as it is, there hasn't been a single Republican administration that has successfully finished a war within the last 100 years and it doesn't look like things are going to change. (Korea - started/finished at the 38th parallel. Vietnam - pulled out. Gulf War I - declared victory and left the Iraqis to fend for themselves, thereby creating an even bigger problem for ourselves today.)
Further, the President's idea that if we democratize Iraq then the other countries would follow suit is the same thing that got Johnson in trouble with his "Domino Theory" (that if one country fell to Communism, then the rest would fall like dominoes in a line. Didn't happen then; not going to happen now).
I also said after 9/11/01 that if we were going to have a war on terrorism, we would also have to go after Saudi Arabia (most of the hijackers of 9/11 were Saudi nationals), Iran, Ireland, etc. Where do we stop? Let's face it, this war is simply so Bush and all his corporate buddies can run this country into the ground, taking Iraq's oil, ruining the enviroment and trampling on the civil rights of Americans while making more money.
The War on Terror...give me a break! It's all about the money, now.
The_Evil_Gentleman
Power Metal Owns
Politics has always been a dirty game. Country leaders never do anything and the soldiers and civilians are here to pay for their price. There's no leader had sacrificed himself with the soldiers and civilians. They just sit on their ass and feel safe.
Hey sumairetsu, just for the record, I wasnt refering to you or anyone else personally, more to points of view in general. Im surprised to see how differentiated your view on things is though, I expected some pro-israeli, patriotic speech, lol 
Kenneth R.
Cináed
i didn't vote for bastard junior either....
and now i hope he does as little damage as possible in the next 4 years. i think with arafat gone, whoever steps up to take his place had better be talking smart and talking peace if they don't want an all out war with israel who already seems to want to crush palestine as a bunch of terrorists. i'd like to see both groups put stupidity and hate behind and wage peace in the middle east, without us asshole USA morons babysitting the ordeal
and now i hope he does as little damage as possible in the next 4 years. i think with arafat gone, whoever steps up to take his place had better be talking smart and talking peace if they don't want an all out war with israel who already seems to want to crush palestine as a bunch of terrorists. i'd like to see both groups put stupidity and hate behind and wage peace in the middle east, without us asshole USA morons babysitting the ordeal
Oblivious Maximus
I am the worm
What we should do with Araffat's body: put in in a bus and blow it the fuck up, or put it in a plane and crash it in Mecca.
BlizzardOZ said:what do you think will happen after araffat is gone?
I think that there will be a nasty power struggle on many levels. Sympathy for the Palestinians is among the most powerful political tools in the region. I'm very glad that he's dead, but I can't convince myself that the new leader of the Palestinians will be any better. I think that a ruthless man will rise to the top and the Palestinians will continue to be exploited for political leverage.
Perhaps this new leader will not have as much support from the Palestinians. The political goals may be factionalized. This could benefit all in the long term as a popular movement for peace and statehood may take root.
The biggest problem of the situation, as far as I'm aware, is that of the child training in the refugee camps. I don't see this changing in the near future.
gatedropper
Prince of Peace
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The struggle for power my friends.
Men have to have it and will do anything
they can to achieve it .
Oh yea, and what Sumairetsu said.
Men have to have it and will do anything
they can to achieve it .
Oh yea, and what Sumairetsu said.
