the "rage effect" or "rage situation"
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Braxil
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Destination Forever
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Well, basically, after Evergrey played at ProgPower IV, they had an autograph session, and, of course, almost everybody got in line, including myself. Now, I got lucky and was first in line, so I got back in plenty of time to see RAGE, but some other people werent so lucky. A lot of people ended up leaving altogether after Evergrey played, leaving RAGE, the headliner, with MAYBE a 1/4th of the full audience there during their show (just an estimate, could be a little bigger or maybe even smaller). A lot of people complained about the venue being cold, and most people were just tired after a long weekend. RAGE, while releasing almost 20 full length albums, still aren't very well known in the metal scene compared to some newcomers and still really don't get any recognition. RAGE, in my opinion, played one of the best sets I have seen at ProgPower, and I've been going ever since ProgPower IV. They totally OWNED the stage during the hour and a half they played.
Is this a fair account of "The Rage Effect" everyone? This is what I always took it to mean.
Is this a fair account of "The Rage Effect" everyone? This is what I always took it to mean.
Destination Forever
Pattycake! :)
RAGE is AWESOME and their show that night was AWESOME!!! Anyone who walked out...shame on you! It's too bad they will probably never be back. Maybe Chicago Powerfest????
most people left BEFORE they started.. It's not like the saw a song or 2 and started to leave..
the show was AWESOME. One of the best in PP history, IMO.
I was dragging ass at that point, and if I didnt HAVE to be there, probably would have left just due to pure exhaustion.
Glad I didn't though. as they tore the place up, and i wasn't even familiar with their material.
Very cool and gracious guys to work with... I'd love to see them back
Glad I didn't though. as they tore the place up, and i wasn't even familiar with their material.
Very cool and gracious guys to work with... I'd love to see them back
The Invisible Guest
Member
Yeah, it was a bad deal .. as they were fantastic live. They were a 3 piece band that sounded like 5 or 6. Victor Smolski might have been the best guitarist to ever play Prog Power ... it comes very easy to him .. just awesome.
Britt
lignicolos
They don't think it be like it is, but it do
I've gotta agree. I wasn't too familiar with Rage before their performance, but they absolutely slayed. I instantly became a fan for life. I am hoping to attend Wacken this year and they'll be one of the main bands i'm looking forward to seeing again.
I've been to the last 5 PPs and I also think the Rage set was one of the highlights of the past 5 years. And yes, I was already a big fan! 
I think the biggest problem was caused by Evergrey announcing their autograph session at the end of their set. Nothing against Evergrey's music or even the band members, but that was not a very classy move on their part.
Anyway, for those who stayed (as you can see by the other posts in this thread), Rage definitely kicked some major ass!
I hope those who spent the hour and a half waiting in line for autographs get another chance someday to catch this awesome band live!
I think the biggest problem was caused by Evergrey announcing their autograph session at the end of their set. Nothing against Evergrey's music or even the band members, but that was not a very classy move on their part.
Anyway, for those who stayed (as you can see by the other posts in this thread), Rage definitely kicked some major ass!
I hope those who spent the hour and a half waiting in line for autographs get another chance someday to catch this awesome band live!
Are Mary and I the only ones that thought Rage had the worst sound of any band that has every played PP? At least from our position, the sound was very distorted and it was hard to pick out the different parts. I still think this, coupled with the absolutely soul-draining performances by Circle II Circle and Evergrey before them, really led to the place clearing out.
Just my dumb opinion, of course...
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Just my dumb opinion, of course...
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Wandrail
I'm your Huckleberry
From right in front of the stage, I remember Rage having very good sound. It was of course very loud, but I don't recall a whole lot of offensive frequencies hitting my ears. Smolski's guitar sound was pretty even and clear, I thought. I think Symphony X had the worst sound I experienced at PP, because the guitar was so treble-heavy - and treble frequencies are what can really hurt your hearing. I had to keep earplugs in for that set...after which I still enjoyed it.
Megawozniak
Alex from Canada
Symphony X's sound was just painful.
I'm one of the people who saw Rage, and maintain that it was in the top 3 PP performances ever (Been since 4). I don't know how the people who missed them can live with themselves.
I'm one of the people who saw Rage, and maintain that it was in the top 3 PP performances ever (Been since 4). I don't know how the people who missed them can live with themselves.
I agree. RAGE destroyed the place even though only a handful of people remained. Sad, but those that stayed were way into it. One of the best performances in PP history.
nailz
Member
Rage is definitely by far the band I regret the most for missing the entire set. I saw 4 or 5 songs before I just wanted to go home and die. We left right after the show that year, 15 hours drive back to NY. Ugh. First year, learning experience. I hate myself.
Wishmaster
Heavy Metal Llama!
I knew next to nothing about Rage at the time, and, despite being dead on my feet, enjoyed the hell outta their set. Can't wait to see 'em again sometime.
--Mike
--Mike
Well, I don't have any trouble sleeping at night.
I stayed for about 4 songs, and that was enough for me. They just didn't interest me - everything seemed kind of bland and I didn't care for the vocals much at all. I'm sure they are a fine band, just perhaps not my thing. Me not knowing their material probably didn't help, but on the other hand, I didn't know any of Therion's material either, and I thought they were great.
Obviously the "Rage Situation" was unique due to the vast number of people to leave, but really every band that goes on last on Saturday has a lot of people leave for a variety of reasons: They're tired. They have to start long trips that night. The old Fairfield Flu (which was particularly bad at PP IV). Maybe even some disinterest.
When people say the "Rage Effect" they're refering to the reproduction of the circumstances resulting in another mass exodus during another headliner's set. I personally think it will never happen again because the Rage effect requires:
1. A headliner most are unfamiliar with- that could happen.
2. The band's back catalog being too extensive for people to bother familiarizing themselves- that could happen.
3. A catalyst to pull a lot of people away from the stage- that's pretty unlikely, because Glenn has vowed to prevent that from ever happening again.
For example: Last year the vendors started a CD pricing war on this forum that would have started at the end of the Epica set and run through the Jorn set. Glenn slammed the lid on that. I think if he hadn't Jorn could have suffered from the Rage Effect due to the insane savings those sales were supposed to have.
Even if 1 and 2 are present most people don't walk away from a band just because they're unfamiliar with their material. The PP crowd usually gives artists a chance to impress them and convert them to new fans. There would need to be something else going on to pull most of them away.
Of course there could be a mass exodus if the band was really bad. But that wouldn't be the Rage Effect, it would be because they suck.
When people say the "Rage Effect" they're refering to the reproduction of the circumstances resulting in another mass exodus during another headliner's set. I personally think it will never happen again because the Rage effect requires:
1. A headliner most are unfamiliar with- that could happen.
2. The band's back catalog being too extensive for people to bother familiarizing themselves- that could happen.
3. A catalyst to pull a lot of people away from the stage- that's pretty unlikely, because Glenn has vowed to prevent that from ever happening again.
For example: Last year the vendors started a CD pricing war on this forum that would have started at the end of the Epica set and run through the Jorn set. Glenn slammed the lid on that. I think if he hadn't Jorn could have suffered from the Rage Effect due to the insane savings those sales were supposed to have.
Even if 1 and 2 are present most people don't walk away from a band just because they're unfamiliar with their material. The PP crowd usually gives artists a chance to impress them and convert them to new fans. There would need to be something else going on to pull most of them away.
Of course there could be a mass exodus if the band was really bad. But that wouldn't be the Rage Effect, it would be because they suck.
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