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BloodyScalpel said:
So you think a person is "smarter" than another just cause he/she does better at school than another? Get a grip. In school they just fill us up with tonnes of random useless shit we'll never have any use for in our lives, not doing well can be related to literally MILLIONS of factors, including, hey, snap - NOT CARING.

Einstein was a crap student. CRAP.

Well, i don't know what you learn at school :p here it's pretty good.

What I'm trying to say is that when I'm done with my study I can design a machine out of some given specifications, people who are going to clean toilets for the rest of their lives are probably just not capable of learning that stuff. Maybe it looks like you are being filled with useless stuff, that's what I thought aswell at high school, but in the end most of it has proven its use. People who really don't care about school (as in not getting any degree) are just fucking stupid.
 
Roel said:
Well, i don't know what you learn at school :p here it's pretty good.

What I'm trying to say is that when I'm done with my study I can design a machine out of some given specifications, people who are going to clean toilets for the rest of their lives are probably just not capable of learning that stuff. Maybe it looks like you are being filled with useless stuff, that's what I thought aswell at high school, but in the end most of it has proven its use. People who really don't care about school (as in not getting any degree) are just fucking stupid.
I'm not in high school. I'm done with it, and as it didn't add a thing to my life - that considering I'm in college now - and most of the stuff I've learnt in highschool were worth jack shit here.

AND, I didn't care about school before getting into college, and snap, was I right.
 
I know you're in college :p It's just a difference between our countries then since high school is pretty useful here, with a few courses as exceptions lol. Compared to university high school stuff is easy as fuck of course, but you just can't learn calculus to 12-17 year olds :p
 
Course you can, calculus is easy as fuck

Either way, what I'm saying is that you can't judge someone's intelligence by their grades in highschool and you obviously can't.
 
BloodyScalpel said:
Course you can, calculus is easy as fuck

lol.. that comment is just stupid


I agree on the grades part. If you pass the exam you know enough for that level of highschool, but here in holland for example there are 4 or 5 levels of high school (easier - harder) and I do judge people's "intelligence" according to what level they do. Some people who did a low level say they could have done a higer one but didn't. Well, sucks for them but in my eyes that's a form of stupidness, so - intelligence points for you.

That's just my vision, you have another one, fine by me.
 
Roel said:
lol.. that comment is just stupid
No it isn't.
Roel said:
I agree on the grades part. If you pass the exam you know enough for that level of highschool, but here in holland for example there are 4 or 5 levels of high school (easier - harder) and I do judge people's "intelligence" according to what level they do. Some people who did a low level say they could have done a higer one but didn't. Well, sucks for them but in my eyes that's a form of stupidness, so - intelligence points for you.

That's just my vision, you have another one, fine by me.
That's a narrowminded fascist anachronic view. You gotta at least be conscious of that :). First of all, intelligence isn't related only to what is taught at school, there are NINE basic types of intelligence, of which only two or three are explored at school. Second of all, the evaluation method used by schools is flawed and imcomplete, many things could affect grade - most of which have nothing to do with intelligence or even the person's school life itself. And third and more importantly, doing a higher level won't change a thing in their lives, so it's their choice to care about it or not - you can't say that's just stupidity. I used to be one of the crappiest students ever when I was in high school, in college I'm at the top of the class. It's all in how you prioritize things.

And also, very stupid people who can't even think for themselves may memorize and apply and have good grades. I've seen it all the time - Intelligence is the ability to tell and decide, and not the ability to do what teachers tell you.
 
lol yea maybe my view is wrong in the eyes of others but I dont care, I have many thoughts which are wrong in other eyes :p I guess its partly formed by society these days.

doing a higher level won't change a thing in their lives
Uhm, at least in holland it does change things in your life.

I used to be one of the crappiest students ever when I was in high school, in college I'm at the top of the class. It's all in how you prioritize things.
+points for you from my point of view :p
 
Roel said:
Uhm, at least in holland it does change things in your life.
Even after college? Here the grades in highschool are, well, forgotten, and the grades in college matter pretty much only while you're still in college to get research assignments, exchanges, stuff like like that.

Eventually all that matters is what you've done in your professional life.
Roel said:
+points for you from my point of view :p
=D
 
BloodyScalpel said:
Even after college? Here the grades in highschool are, well, forgotten, and the grades in college matter pretty much only while you're still in college to get research assignments, exchanges, stuff like like that.

Grades you get at high school matter in a few cases. For example here in Holland there are not many places for students who want to get a medical degree on uni level. In the case of that study they gonna look at your high school grades. In my case (mechanical engineering) they don't look at your grades since there are enough places.
Your university grades can help you to get a better job later, but I'm just an average student, I don't put the effort in it to get high grades so for me it doesn't really matter, I just want to get my master degree and I'll be happy with that :)

But what I meant was that the level of education you have affects your life (as ranging between practical education, carpenter etc. to university degrees)

Eventually all that matters is what you've done in your professional life.
True. I give researchers higher credit than economists for example. Economists and friends keep everything going, researchers "invent" new stuff and that's just worth alot imo :)

anyway im off to a party :p