Thinking Of Following SOCCER

[The Ozzman]

You should watch hockey, because it's fundamentally the same game, except that there's scoring and fighting. And it's not a total snoozefest.

He should watch lacrosse instead

 

[no country for old wainds]

There's a pretty big difference when Oscar award winner Ronaldo falls and when Gerrard falls.

yeah; ronaldo isn't such a massive hypocrite

that said, i wish we'd sold him in the summer

 

[no country for old wainds]

Arsenal... Champions league winners this year.

whoever wins the barca chelsea semi will win it. arsenal are a shadow of the team they used to be, and they couldn't even win it back then. their football ain't as pretty anymore either.

 

[King Richard]

I don't know how people don't see how similar soccer and hockey are. The only difference is hockey is loaded with deadly weapons and is played on ice.

 

[genocide roach]

smart money this year is on barca, however i think liverpool still has a chance if they can get past chelsea (and they should)
~gR~

 

[Dak]

Omni-esque "Soccer sucks" driveby.

 

[genocide roach]

fucking marines...
~gR~

 

[no country for old wainds]

smart money this year is on barca, however i think liverpool still has a chance if they can get past chelsea (and they should)
~gR~

what do you mean 'they should'? they have almost no chance now. otherwise i'd agree.

 

[genocide roach]

liverpool has a tendency to do much better in the UCL, even against england teams. they're only down by 2 away goals and they've been great in away games during the tournament. i would not be suprised if they came back and won on aggregate. plus, they want revenge from last years botched semi against chelsea.

i'm being optomistic, but they are completely capable of beating chelsea.
~gR~

 

[False Joe]

There's optimistic, and there's stupid.

Cue liverpool winning ofcourse

 

[genocide roach]

i may not have faith in god, but i have faith in LIVERPOOL
~gR~

 

[challenge_everything]

Living in France, and missing real sport, I have no choice but to watch the grass ballet because it's basically the only sport there is here. I can appreciate the sublime skills involved but still it's a stupid game for the following reasons:

1) It's too low scoring (ie dull)
2) Which also means it's easier for a bad team to beat or equal a good team if they score one lucky goal
3) the players are pussies. I saw a game the other week where a guy got taken off on a stretcher and five minutes later he was back. I'm used to Australian football where if you get on a stretcher you pretty much want to have a broken leg or be unconscious.
4) there's no team culture - what I mean is it's solely money-driven, the best teams are inevitably those with the most money, as opposed to a number of other sports where there is at least some correlation with developing home-grown players.

 

[no country for old wainds]

1) It's too low scoring (ie dull)

it's high scoring sports that are dull. it's like hey they scored again, who gives a shit

2) Which also means it's easier for a bad team to beat or equal a good team if they score one lucky goal

makes it more exciting. the good team beats the bad team 95% of the time anyway, and the end of season table always reflects quality

3) the players are pussies. I saw a game the other week where a guy got taken off on a stretcher and five minutes later he was back. I'm used to Australian football where if you get on a stretcher you pretty much want to have a broken leg or be unconscious.

yeah, most football fans hate that shit though, didn't used to be that way. there are still some players who are hard as nails, for example nemanja the terminator vidic!

4) there's no team culture - what I mean is it's solely money-driven, the best teams are inevitably those with the most money, as opposed to a number of other sports where there is at least some correlation with developing home-grown players.

well yeah it's becoming more and more of a business, so is pretty much every other team sport though. utd's dominance in the '90s was down to our home grown legends (L)

 

[TheInsane]

1) It's too low scoring (ie dull)

I think this is an advantage football has over other sports. I really dislike high scoring sports in general because a goal/score doesnt mean as much as it does in football. Here a goal is something rather special and it makes it more interesting.


2) Which also means it's easier for a bad team to beat or equal a good team if they score one lucky goal

It can happen but rarely does. I actually think its way harder for a bas football team to win over a good team compared to a bad hockey team getting a win over a good one.


3) the players are pussies. I saw a game the other week where a guy got taken off on a stretcher and five minutes later he was back. I'm used to Australian football where if you get on a stretcher you pretty much want to have a broken leg or be unconscious.


Yes this is very fair critique. Its not about the players being pussies though. They try to gain advantages of free kicks and penalty kicks. Some leagues/traditions in football are worse than others. In Italy I believe its very common while England and Scotland is way more rough and the referees dont give falling players as much as they do in Italy for example.



4) there's no team culture - what I mean is it's solely money-driven, the best teams are inevitably those with the most money, as opposed to a number of other sports where there is at least some correlation with developing home-grown players.



Seems like this is true in most sports unfortunately. But yeah football is very money driven and loads of teams are owned by millionaire sheiks and such. Sad but true.

Both sports are a bunch of guys trying to put an object past a man guarding a net. The team that does this more times wins. Sounds pretty similar to me.

Good thing I dont have to argue with you. You make yourself look more stupid than I ever could

 

[King Richard]

I'm replying to both TheInsane and wainds.

The only sport you are talking about is basketball. Where a lot of baskets are made, and there are a ton of points scored. You can't claim American football has too many points scored (unless you're the Colts ldo) in each game because the points for a touchdown and a field goal are just a lot bigger than single points for a goal. Most American football games don't go over 25 points for each team anyways, which is like 5 scores total or so. Almost like a baseball really. They just don't score their "goals" in multiples of 1 is all.

I don't have a comment about the 2nd point.

I think the 3rd point is a pretty legit argument. Soccer players are big bitches man. Faking an injury to try and score more points or creat an unfair advantage for your team is called CHEATING. Fuck cheaters.

As for the 4th point, yeah, it's generally about the money for the most part, but there are a lot of sports who actually have a bit of personality attached to them though, unlike soccer.

 

[The Ozzman]

Lacrosse isn't money driven. It's a better sport than hockey and soccer and combines aspects of both sports

 

[False Joe]

but there are a lot of sports who actually have a bit of personality attached to them though, unlike soccer.

Have you ever actually met a proper football fan?

 

[King Richard]

Have you ever actually met a proper football fan?

I'm not talking about the fans, I'm talking about how the league itself is perceived.

 

[no country for old wainds]

your 4th point is just nonsense, like literally i don't know what it means and your follow up post explains nothing either

 

[King Richard]

Oh yeah tough guy? Name them.