True, I never really said what sound I was aiming for. I would say that Jeff Loomis (Nevermore) sound is a good example of what I like. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Andy Sneap worked on a couple of Nevermore albums right?
Typical FX for high gain guitars
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agentmetal
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Yep, those were done by JeffTD and you'll get them there : http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/practice-room/569814-definitive-rose-sharyn-di-backing.html
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Megin
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Ampsims sounds so thin so maybe this one too: https://plugin-alliance.com/en/plugins/detail/bx_shredspread.html
The bare minimum for an awesome tone is an awesome guitar player, fresh strings/decent guitar setup, a kind of good amp / amp sim, and a boosting pedal (like a TS). Cab is important too but mainly for the tonal characteristics and behavior.
Noise gate isn`t a must, same with compression and equalizers. You need noise gate if the guitar player plays like shit, if the amp you chose is really noisy even on not-so-fucking-super-high-gain-settings and if the genre calls for it. But nowadays it is quite common although it makes guitar playing feel like shit on high settings.
Compression is needed when you have a high gain tone but the amp is still dynamic as hell which isn`t the case with most metal amps (especially not with free amp sims). Or if the guitar player`s picking hand sucks, you might need it again but it is a trade off as it thins out the guitars low end. So I would try to avoid single band compression on high gain guitars but it is up to your ears and it is up to if you know how to use it.
Equalizer is your go-to tool when something is odd within an awesome tone and you can`t get rid of it BEFORE you record. With metal guitars this is often the case but try to avoid using too much equalizer because let`s face the truth: one can hear the equalizer madness on high gain guitars very well and it makes the tone sound like shit.
Generally I think I can make any tone sound cool by just playing the guitar according to what I have. It may not suit the genre or a certain part but the tone will sound cool on its own so it is really hard to talk about tone without a context. I just wanna point out that the best weapon to a great guitar tone comes from the guitar player itself and that`s the case with any organic sounding instrument. And it applies to amp sims even more as they do not help to sound better at all. In fact, I find them to be even more honest because of their sterility.
Also: Everything that agentmetal said. :]
EDIT: "kills witch" made me giggle quite a bit.
Noise gate isn`t a must, same with compression and equalizers. You need noise gate if the guitar player plays like shit, if the amp you chose is really noisy even on not-so-fucking-super-high-gain-settings and if the genre calls for it. But nowadays it is quite common although it makes guitar playing feel like shit on high settings.
Compression is needed when you have a high gain tone but the amp is still dynamic as hell which isn`t the case with most metal amps (especially not with free amp sims). Or if the guitar player`s picking hand sucks, you might need it again but it is a trade off as it thins out the guitars low end. So I would try to avoid single band compression on high gain guitars but it is up to your ears and it is up to if you know how to use it.
Equalizer is your go-to tool when something is odd within an awesome tone and you can`t get rid of it BEFORE you record. With metal guitars this is often the case but try to avoid using too much equalizer because let`s face the truth: one can hear the equalizer madness on high gain guitars very well and it makes the tone sound like shit.
Generally I think I can make any tone sound cool by just playing the guitar according to what I have. It may not suit the genre or a certain part but the tone will sound cool on its own so it is really hard to talk about tone without a context. I just wanna point out that the best weapon to a great guitar tone comes from the guitar player itself and that`s the case with any organic sounding instrument. And it applies to amp sims even more as they do not help to sound better at all. In fact, I find them to be even more honest because of their sterility.
Also: Everything that agentmetal said. :]
EDIT: "kills witch" made me giggle quite a bit.
cfh11
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disagree strongly that a boost is part of the "bare minimum" for an awesome tone. TS is a stylistic choice that works very well for some types of tones/amps, and completely ruins others. i also want to point out that the cab used is a lot more important than people give it credit for. the type of speaker and cab has a huge impact on the sound. i dont have a lot of experience with sims, but for real amps 99% of the sound (besides the obvious things you pointed out above like new strings, good player, good sound in the room) comes from the type of mic, the placement of the mic (the MOST important factor imho), and the sound of the actual speaker you are miking.
