Using an external click timbre via MIDI in protools?

[crazykarl]

In a couple of weeks I'm recording a death metal band. I've worked with the drummer in the past and I know he prefers his own click-track voicing (it says: one-e-and-a, two-e-and-a, etc). Is there any way to connect this voicing to the native click track via midi?

Otherwise, does anyone know of a similar voicing I could just download and toss in? It's just a robot voice that breaks down the count to 16th notes.

 

[Wave_D]

This is kinda silly, but you could just import or record in that voice and then cut the subdivisions up, lock them to the grid, and set the track to tick based and then whatever tempo you set it will automatically move them appropriately.

If there's midi on his device use the midi beat clock and set his device to follow pro tool's clock and they should synce.

Hope this makes sense..typing this on my phone.

 

[joeritson]

chuck a cowbell sample in there and tell him to be a man

 

[joeritson]

Alternatively, get him to program the click in his module, then program it in tools, record the headphone output from his module and line it up with the tools one. BAM

 

[greyskull]

id probably record it in just for the sake of ease..
that and you cant always trust the timing of those boxes due to midi, and the fact that what they have is normally a piece of junk.
If you're using Pro tools 8 you can use the tl metronome and import your own samples.

Just tab to transient on them and make sure that theyre're REALLY tight. Consolidate them (alt+shift+3) and then export them into a folder (⌘+shift+k) then import from the folder into the metronome, and you have the custom metronome sounds synced PROPERLY to the pro tools grid.

 

[::XeS::]

Jesus christ....these drummers surprise me every time a little more.
It seems that they try to invent stupid things every time to complicate also the most simple thing

 

[MartijnPaauwe]

Jeez.. doesn't the guy know how to count or something? :zombie:

I think it's possible to make a midi track in your DAW and send them to the drum module. But isn't it handier just the let him play along a clicktrack from the DAW your using? Just tell him to lower his additude and act like a man

You can also demand if he makes his own clicktrack then I did this with my band before we went into the studio (i had to do it though, because we recorded scratch guitars, it wasn't to much of a hassle to export the click as well )

 

[drew_drummer]

So.... in conclusion.... is Pro Tools so shit that you cant redirect the click-midi to a midi output to go to the drummers module?

 

[AudioGeekZine]

So.... in conclusion.... is Pro Tools so shit that you cant redirect the click-midi to a midi output to go to the drummers module?

no, it's just none of these guys know how to do it!

The trick is making sure there's no latency making everything he plays a bit off the grid.

Double click the Metronome on the transport bar
Click/Countoff options window comes up
In the Output dropdown you can choose any virtual instrument or under "Predefined" you can choose the MIDI out of your interface.
You'll want to record it into a stereo track, chop up and snap 100% to grid just incase there is some timing issue too. When you go to edit and you don't want to have to rely on his box.

Personally I like making a 1 bar loop of sidestick + shaker samples on two mono tracks in ticks mode, making a region group, then looping infinitely. tempo changes will automatically adjust the spacing of samples.

 

[Dexter_prog]

Gosh, drummers can be so silly sometimes...

 

[Erik Monsonis]

Jesus christ....these drummers surprise me every time a little more.
It seems that they try to invent stupid things every time to complicate also the most simple thing

+10000



"testa di cazzo"

 

[greyskull]

i know how to do it just fine ta
just dont reccomend it.
bloody drummers

 

[crazykarl]

I think I might just keep it simple and have him just play along to his module. It's a Roland so in theory it should be pretty reliable, though I have see Roland fail before (mainly in some of their lesser known guitar amps). I'll just match the tempos, sync the stick click count off to the grid and that should do it.

ShallowEulogy~I did that before, but we ended up changing the tempo a couple of time so we would be going back and forth rerecording a bar of click, it got annoying.

He said the tempos are about 240-250 bpm (wtf) so I'm going to let him have it his way so he doesn't fulcrum blast my face.

AudioGeek~I'm going to try that, it seems to be the most fitting solution.