Utter fucking nightmare sessions

PhilR

Studio Scapegoat
Feb 13, 2007
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Well this is one that kinda makes me glad I spend more time building shit at my studio these days than actually recording: :heh:

Band in question are pretty young kids. Nothing wrong with that, and they seemed to show initial promise in that they only wanted to record one song. And they claimed to have tabbed the whole song in Guitar Pro beforehand and used this as their basis for click-track practice.

Didn't show up when we started to track though! Drummer was racing ahead of the click at warp 5 compared to the programmed tempo. Kept complaining that it seemed too slow even though the guitarist insisted it was correct. So I figure; why not tap-tempo the speed he wants to play at and go with that. So I do. Doesn't work, he can't play by himself never mind to a click! At all! He may as well not be able to hear the damn click for all the good it does.

At this point my studio partner returns and resumes control at the helm and I escape to the relative simplicity of making shit happen with drills & stuff. It didn't get any better as the day wore on though. The drums were tracked almost one bar at a time as the drummer simply couldn't keep time for any longer than that. The guitarists weren't much better. Sloppy phrasing, lousy rhythm and generally not well-rehearsed. The irony is that they brought a friend with them that was better on guitar than any of them, but he wasn't in the band!

The singer (a girl) spent about an hour doing vocal warmup exercises which she appeared to be finding on YouTube and seemed to actually have a pretty good voice. But for some reason once she stepped up to the mic she suddenly lost the ability to hit more than one note in 10 in the correct pitch!

Anyway to wrap up in order to wring any kind of listenability from this recording my studio partner basically sliced up the drum tracks beat-by-beat and edited the living shit out of them. Going as far as to completely re-build almost every fill as he couldn't figure out what the hell he was supposed to have actually played! All the guitar leads had to be cut up note-for-note and edited to be in time with newly carved up drums. Some of the rhythm guitars were so utterly out of any discernible rhythm he just re-amped the other track and replaced them instead. All the vocals needed to be Melodyned to hell and back and edited heavily for delivery and time.

I wish I had a before/after mix to upload for you I really do. The finished result is a frankensteinian nightmare of a track that somehow came out sounding at least 80% decent. :D It literally drove my buddy to drink. He spent both editing sessions hitting the JD just to cope with the horror of it all. :rock:
 
Nothing compared to what I had to put up with this one band I was recording a demo for back in 2007 or so... (I had to check from myspace that they were actually split up, so I think dare to say this) The bandmembers were quite nice and all, but OH MY GOD did they suck at playing and after third take I just turned the click off and said to them just play. And when I was mastering the demo the singer pretty much admitted being tonedeaf. The music... it was was quite horrible too (and yes, that is the endresult).
 
oh jesus
i can think of many people around here who would find the out of tune vocals charming
fucking indie hipster cunts
 
oh jesus
i can think of many people around here who would find the out of tune vocals charming
fucking indie hipster cunts

I honestly wouldn't mind if that was the style of music in question but this band were pretty generic emo/screamo metal stuff.

Some parts of the vocals the melody had to be pretty much made up from scratch as it sounded like the singer got bored halfway through and just gave up on trying to sing any real note patterns. :lol:
 
Well this is one that kinda makes me glad I spend more time building shit at my studio these days than actually recording: :heh:

Band in question are pretty young kids. Nothing wrong with that, and they seemed to show initial promise in that they only wanted to record one song. And they claimed to have tabbed the whole song in Guitar Pro beforehand and used this as their basis for click-track practice.

Didn't show up when we started to track though! Drummer was racing ahead of the click at warp 5 compared to the programmed tempo. Kept complaining that it seemed too slow even though the guitarist insisted it was correct. So I figure; why not tap-tempo the speed he wants to play at and go with that. So I do. Doesn't work, he can't play by himself never mind to a click! At all! He may as well not be able to hear the damn click for all the good it does.

At this point my studio partner returns and resumes control at the helm and I escape to the relative simplicity of making shit happen with drills & stuff. It didn't get any better as the day wore on though. The drums were tracked almost one bar at a time as the drummer simply couldn't keep time for any longer than that. The guitarists weren't much better. Sloppy phrasing, lousy rhythm and generally not well-rehearsed. The irony is that they brought a friend with them that was better on guitar than any of them, but he wasn't in the band!

The singer (a girl) spent about an hour doing vocal warmup exercises which she appeared to be finding on YouTube and seemed to actually have a pretty good voice. But for some reason once she stepped up to the mic she suddenly lost the ability to hit more than one note in 10 in the correct pitch!

Anyway to wrap up in order to wring any kind of listenability from this recording my studio partner basically sliced up the drum tracks beat-by-beat and edited the living shit out of them. Going as far as to completely re-build almost every fill as he couldn't figure out what the hell he was supposed to have actually played! All the guitar leads had to be cut up note-for-note and edited to be in time with newly carved up drums. Some of the rhythm guitars were so utterly out of any discernible rhythm he just re-amped the other track and replaced them instead. All the vocals needed to be Melodyned to hell and back and edited heavily for delivery and time.

I wish I had a before/after mix to upload for you I really do. The finished result is a frankensteinian nightmare of a track that somehow came out sounding at least 80% decent. :D It literally drove my buddy to drink. He spent both editing sessions hitting the JD just to cope with the horror of it all. :rock:

I ABSOLUTELY get your point, mate. This is what happens EVERY single time I track a band. I really like when bands want programmed drums and don't sing (rather growl), because at least I won't be losing so many years of life and hepatic cells. :lol:
 
I ABSOLUTELY get your point, mate. This is what happens EVERY single time I track a band. I really like when bands want programmed drums and don't sing (rather growl), because at least I won't be losing so many years of life and hepatic cells. :lol:

I really, really wish more bands would have a little fundamental self-awareness when it comes to this kind of shit. I would rather make a rough rehearsal recording and then program the drum parts than sit through hours of godawful sloppy-as-fuck playing that will only serve as a lasting testament to just how much that band fucking sucked.

My own bands previous recording efforts weren't anything to scream about though and the last one required a lot of editing before I was semi-happy. This time I stated from the beginning that either we spent a respectable amount of time on drum tracking, to a click, or I'd just program the fucking lot as I couldn't face another month of editing drums hastily tracked in 3-hour slots with no time base. So I programmed all my bass parts in Powertab and used those as the guide parts and we went over everything in practice to make sure all the tempos in each song were correct. It really paid off and our drummer pulled off some great performances which only really needed basic edits and punches (Video here if you're interested. yeah yeah, some of you beat detective fans would probably disagree but I really want to move away from that "typical metal" style of production).

Such a small amount of pre-preparation but it made a huge difference but so far I can only think of 2 bands we've ever recorded that really put that effort in.
 
This weekend I'm recording a band in Madrid. The guys say the drummer is a metronome-nazi, so I HOPE there's at least one tight member in the band being him the drummer. One of the guitarrists (a chick) says she's too sloppy to record and she will only sing (pretty good as I've heard), the rest of the members seem to be OK.

It's very pleasing when some member knows about his/her limitations and delegates his/her part on another, more experienced and tighter member...

Wish me luck! :lol:
 
It's very pleasing when some member knows about his/her limitations and delegates his/her part on another, more experienced and tighter member...

Wish me luck! :lol:

Yeah, we had one band whose lead guitarist was a shred monster but openly admitted he sucked at rhythm guitar so he let the other guitarist (and main songwriter) play all the rhythm parts. That was an easy weekend, once the rhythm parts were down we were able to spend ages going completely over the top on silly neo-classical shred solos. :rock: http://www.myspace.com/backonthestreets
 
Nothing compared to what I had to put up with this one band I was recording a demo for back in 2007 or so... (I had to check from myspace that they were actually split up, so I think dare to say this) The bandmembers were quite nice and all, but OH MY GOD did they suck at playing and after third take I just turned the click off and said to them just play. And when I was mastering the demo the singer pretty much admitted being tonedeaf. The music... it was was quite horrible too (and yes, that is the endresult).

WTF! That is gold man! :lol:
 
nooo moooree schoooool ooooooo oooooool x) goddamn this song is a HIT!!! x) x) x)
 
Nothing compared to what I had to put up with this one band I was recording a demo for back in 2007 or so... (I had to check from myspace that they were actually split up, so I think dare to say this) The bandmembers were quite nice and all, but OH MY GOD did they suck at playing and after third take I just turned the click off and said to them just play. And when I was mastering the demo the singer pretty much admitted being tonedeaf. The music... it was was quite horrible too (and yes, that is the endresult).

Ive been sick on my carpet because of that.
 
Nothing compared to what I had to put up with this one band I was recording a demo for back in 2007 or so... (I had to check from myspace that they were actually split up, so I think dare to say this) The bandmembers were quite nice and all, but OH MY GOD did they suck at playing and after third take I just turned the click off and said to them just play. And when I was mastering the demo the singer pretty much admitted being tonedeaf. The music... it was was quite horrible too (and yes, that is the endresult).

although that vocal performance sucked ass, they still sonically sound great. what mic and pre was that?